South Side Hit Men Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 https://www.mlb.com/news/2024-mlb-draft-lottery-odds?t=mlb-draft-coverage We must all pull for one more final loss in 2023 for a 7th or worse pick to secure a chance at at Top 6 selection in 2025. Linda Kollmeyer at the controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Please be outside the top 6 (if they don't get #1 I guess). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Get the highest pick possible. They need talent now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Give me #7 or #1. No in-between, thanks. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Get the highest pick possible. They need talent now. You'd be good with the #6 pick, if that's the highest possible they end up with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Give me #7 or #1. No in-between, thanks. Yeah, #7 or continue the trend of Chicago teams having the #1 overall pick in drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 If the Sox do end up receiving a very high pick, I hope they get creative with the bonus pool considering the weak top of the class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Give me #7 or #1. No in-between, thanks. this is the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 7th overall in a lottery after a bad year is the Jerry Reinsdorf org sweet spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, bmags said: 7th overall in a lottery after a bad year is the Jerry Reinsdorf org sweet spot. They need to fall outside the top 6 or they can’t pick sooner than 10 next year - regardless of where they fall record wise. This team could lose 120 games and end up with the 10th pick… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Get the highest pick possible. They need talent now. 18 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Give me #7 or #1. No in-between, thanks. I disagree with both of these. Top 3 would be fine with the huge bonus pool. 7,8,9 is better than 4-6 though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I'm curious what the "hit" rate is in getting, say, #3 in 2024 and #10 in 2025 vs. #7 2024 and #1 2025. Seems to be the latter option would have a better chance at landing on guys with the greater chance of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Give me #7 or #1. No in-between, thanks. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I get this draft sucks and picking high next year would be ideal, but there is no guarantee they don't lose 100 plus games, finish 4th worse and get screwed next season with the lottery. Whatever happens is probably the worst case scenerio for this franchise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 This draft doesn't suck. That's extreme. It's not as good as last year but historically it will be an average draft. There's a good mix of college pitching and some intruiging college hitters. The HS hitters are down a bit but there is great depth in HS pitchers. They will get a very good player with the first pick and a bigger bonus pool will allow them to add some impact players later so long as the scouts are allowed to do their job which I'm assuming they will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: This draft doesn't suck. That's extreme. It's not as good as last year but historically it will be an average draft. There's a good mix of college pitching and some intruiging college hitters. The HS hitters are down a bit but there is great depth in HS pitchers. They will get a very good player with the first pick and a bigger bonus pool will allow them to add some impact players later so long as the scouts are allowed to do their job which I'm assuming they will. Didn't you earlier allude to scouts not being able to do their job because of the existence of Dan Fabian? Even with Rick/Kenny gone? Or do you expect that to change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Didn't you earlier allude to scouts not being able to do their job because of the existence of Dan Fabian? Even with Rick/Kenny gone? Or do you expect that to change? Because of Jeremy Haber. For some reason he's still there but hopefully he doesn't wield as much power as he had when Hahn was gm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 So is there a Bryce harper, Ken Griffey Junior, or Adley Ruschtman in this draft class? It would be so White Sox to finally get the number 1 pick and end up with a Mickey Moniak or Brady Aiken. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said: So is there a Bryce harper, Ken Griffey Junior, or Adley Ruschtman in this draft class? It would be so White Sox to finally get the number 1 pick and end up with a Mickey Moniak or Brady Aiken. There is not an established generational type talent in this draft class. Considered pretty thin at the top. Here's the BA summary of it at current state. Quote Wake Forest first baseman Nick Kurtz continues to top the list and rank as the best player in the class. But the 2024 group as a whole is significantly more muddled at the top. There is less consensus and perhaps more questions overall compared to a well above-average 2023 class. College players dominate the top of the list, with pure hitters like Kurtz, West Virginia’s JJ Wetherholt and Oregon State’s Travis Bazzana, toolsy and athletic up-the-middle profiles including Northeastern’s Mike Sirota, North Carolina’s Vance Honeycutt and Wake Forest’s Seaver King and power-oriented profiles like Florida two-way sensation Jac Caglianone, Louisiana State slugger Tommy White and Texas A&M transfer Braden Montgomery. There is plenty of stuff to be found in the pitching ranks, both on the high school and college fronts. But there are significant reliever questions and command concerns with many of the most talented college arms. The high school demographic failed to establish a clearcut pecking order with an obvious No. 1 arm—like Noble Meyer a year ago at this time—though the depth of the prep arms is solid. Overall, it seems like a bit of a down class with a wide open draft board that should allow for any number of players to come out strong next spring and vault up the board or establish themselves in the top tier of the class. Edited December 5, 2023 by DirtySox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: This draft doesn't suck. That's extreme. It's not as good as last year but historically it will be an average draft. There's a good mix of college pitching and some intruiging college hitters. The HS hitters are down a bit but there is great depth in HS pitchers. They will get a very good player with the first pick and a bigger bonus pool will allow them to add some impact players later so long as the scouts are allowed to do their job which I'm assuming they will. I'm not too keen on what the White Sox will draft after their first selection. They haven't drafted a guy in round 2 who put up a 2.0 career WAR for the White Sox in over 50 years. Edited December 5, 2023 by Dick Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 See, I keep envisioning a scenario where if they miss out this year, they can still miss out next year. So... please don't suck. Just get a good bonus pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I'm not too keen on what the White Sox will draft after their first selection. They haven't drafted a guy in round 2 who put up a 2.0 career WAR for the White Sox in over 50 years. That's because the draft has been run by fucking idiots. The scouts know the players better than Jeremy Haber's computer does. Get the hell out of their way and let them do their job. The results will show. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: That's because the draft has been run by fucking idiots. The scouts know the players better than Jeremy Haber's computer does. Get the hell out of their way and let them do their job. The results will show. I hope things change, but 50 years is a few regimes. Hard to believe it will be fixed now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: This draft doesn't suck. That's extreme. It's not as good as last year but historically it will be an average draft. There's a good mix of college pitching and some intruiging college hitters. The HS hitters are down a bit but there is great depth in HS pitchers. They will get a very good player with the first pick and a bigger bonus pool will allow them to add some impact players later so long as the scouts are allowed to do their job which I'm assuming they will. I just don't love that the best players in the class play 1B and 2B. The college pitchers have lots of reliever risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I just don't love that the best players in the class play 1B and 2B. The college pitchers have lots of reliever risk. I'm not sure those guys will ultimately be the best players and outside of Burns and Cags who will likely end up a hitter I don't think any of the other top pitchers have significant reliever risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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