wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 5:32 PM, pmb0928 said: I will just add 1 player who should be on there. Yonder Alonso. Signed for 2 years and 9 million dollars so we could entice his brother in law to the team. He had positive WAR all prior years and had over 20 HRs in his last 3 full seasons. He proceeded to hit .178, have a -1.5 WAR in only 67 games with a whopping 7 HRs. He was out of baseball the next year. Expand Can we throw in Jon, running in quick sand, Jay? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Lamar Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Swisher and Royce Clayton are my 1-2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) No particular order (age 32): 1. Nick Swisher 2. Jeff Samardzija 3. Adam LaRoche 4. James Shields 5. David Wells 6. Yonder Alonso 7. Manny Ramirez (nothing he did particularly here, just don't like Manny) 8. Billy Koch 9. Jeff Keppinger 10. Mark Teahen Edit: we could probably do an honorable mentions section which would include Jon Jay, Javier Vazquez, Todd Ritchie, Brian Anderson, Jamie Navarro, Jim Parque. Edited December 5, 2023 by Bob Sacamano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 5:43 PM, wegner said: Can we throw in Jon, running in quick sand, Jay? Expand And those 2 a-holes couldn't even be bothered to publicly talk up the White Sox. Their statements encouraged Machado to pick San Diego. I think we're going to need many more than 10 slots for this exercise. Wil Cordero needs a spot along side Mike Clevenger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 3:46 PM, wegner said: Hat tip to @dohnutfor the idea to help us forget this group of current losers by remembering past losers. List 10 White Sox players who you personally disliked the most. I will start with the 10 guys who popped quickly into my head and I am sure that I have missed some good ones so I look forward to other Soxtalker's Lists. Mine, in no particular order: Brett Lawrie Jeff Samardzija Joey Cora Nick Swisher Royce Clayton Rob Dibble Kevin Youkilis Billy Koch David Wells Jamie Navarro Sorry to make it 11 but I remembered who I hated most recently and didn't want to remove any of the deserving above....AJ Pollock Expand Why Youkilis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 5:56 PM, WestEddy said: And those 2 a-holes couldn't even be bothered to publicly talk up the White Sox. Their statements encouraged Machado to pick San Diego. I think we're going to need many more than 10 slots for this exercise. Wil Cordero needs a spot along side Mike Clevenger. Expand You can do an honorable mentions section like @Bob Sacamano.....and I see Bob's additional list keeps growing, haha. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 No one has mentioned Paniagua yet? Steve Dahl should get honorable mention as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) On 12/5/2023 at 6:00 PM, wegner said: You can do an honorable mentions section like @Bob Sacamano.....and I see Bob's additional list keeps growing, haha. Expand Names keep coming to me and replacing some of the top 10. Edited December 5, 2023 by Bob Sacamano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 5:58 PM, Harry Chappas said: Why Youkilis? Expand I just didn't like him as a player, in interviews, as a coach with the Cubbies. I just thought the guy was hugely overrated and never cared for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 5:58 PM, Harry Chappas said: Why Youkilis? Expand I think there's a whole genre of White Sox player who got everyone excited, and then for their 2 months, really weren't all that. Cesar Hernandez. Manny Ramirez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 It’s sad that the winter meetings are going on and this is probably the most active thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:03 PM, Pants Rowland said: No one has mentioned Paniagua yet? Steve Dahl should get honorable mention as well. Expand I was in the upper deck at that Paniagua game....I treat him as more of an urban legend. I almost bought his game worn jersey at Soxfest just to see the reaction when I wore it to a game, but it was more than $5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:07 PM, WestEddy said: I think there's a whole genre of White Sox player who got everyone excited, and then for their 2 months, really weren't all that. Cesar Hernandez. Manny Ramirez. Expand Excellent point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Navarro - if you were a Sox fan at that time he is number 1 by a mile. I blame the white flag on him, his contract and JR never spending again George Bell - I blame him for 93 Jerry Dybzynski - I don't care if I spelled wrong I blame him for 83 Jeff S. Swisher Clayton Wells Manny Ramitez Jeff Keppinger Jose Canseco 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:09 PM, wegner said: I was in the upper deck at that Paniagua game....I treat him as more of an urban legend. I almost bought his game worn jersey at Soxfest just to see the reaction when I wore it to a game, but it was more than $5. Expand I had great sits behnd the vistitors dugout. What a douche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:08 PM, Bob Sacamano said: It’s sad that the winter meetings are going on and this is probably the most active thread. Expand Oops....I hope I didn't distract Getzy from his job of adding guys to add to this list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Just a thought: can coaches, and even owners, make this list? If not, how about honorable mentions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:09 PM, wegner said: I was in the upper deck at that Paniagua game....I treat him as more of an urban legend. I almost bought his game worn jersey at Soxfest just to see the reaction when I wore it to a game, but it was more than $5. Expand I changed the colored tags on a game worn Jason Bere for $15 at Soxfest. I spent the $150 savings on beer at the Fest so White Sox Charities got their money. I burnt a part of it using it as pot holder during a tailgate. White Sox Charities karma at its best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 4:48 PM, wegner said: I believe his nickname was The Road Runner? I seem to remember Harry or Jimmy saying meep meep when he ran down the 1B line. Anyway, I saw in his obituary from 2020 that he was a 5 tool OF!! Expand The Road Runner was Ralph Garr if I remember correctly. His outfield defense would fit in really well with the guys of today though I don't think he was a bad dude deserving of this top ten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:13 PM, Harry Chappas said: I had great sits behnd the vistitors dugout. What a douche. Expand That was the oddest feeling leaving the stadium that night. Even though the Sox won the game, the mood among the fans was deflating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:12 PM, Harry Chappas said: Clayton Expand I'm surprised at the repeated inclusion of Royce Clayton. Maybe just for unrealized dreaming. He moved Ozzie Smith to 2B and was reviled for that, right? In 2001, I was in Minneapolis for work meetings. It was the week of the season that was moved from the 9/11 week to the end of the season. I wound up in the same hotel as the White Sox, so I kept running into them all day. Royce and Maggs were sitting in the bar area. I went up to Magglio Ordoñez, called him Paul Konerko, and said I was his biggest fan. Royce Clayton busted up at that. Every time I'd run into Clayton on the elevator or the lobby, he was always cordial. I was wearing a Sox jacket, so maybe they thought I worked in marketing, or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:15 PM, Bob Sacamano said: Just a thought: can coaches, and even owners, make this list? If not, how about honorable mentions? Expand As the OP I'd like to quote Terence Mann......There are rules here? No, there are no rules here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:17 PM, BamaDoc said: The Road Runner was Ralph Garr if I remember correctly. His outfield defense would fit in really well with the guys of today though I don't think he was a bad dude deserving of this top ten. Expand Yes, Ralph Garr. Thank you. My apologies for mis-nicknaming Mr Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:18 PM, WestEddy said: I'm surprised at the repeated inclusion of Royce Clayton. Maybe just for unrealized dreaming. He moved Ozzie Smith to 2B and was reviled for that, right? In 2001, I was in Minneapolis for work meetings. It was the week of the season that was moved from the 9/11 week to the end of the season. I wound up in the same hotel as the White Sox, so I kept running into them all day. Royce and Maggs were sitting in the bar area. I went up to Magglio Ordoñez, called him Paul Konerko, and said I was his biggest fan. Royce Clayton busted up at that. Every time I'd run into Clayton on the elevator or the lobby, he was always cordial. I was wearing a Sox jacket, so maybe they thought I worked in marketing, or something. Expand I view certain guys as reason why the team failed. All I recall about him and Harold batting under .100 in June as the team floundered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 6:17 PM, Harry Chappas said: I changed the colored tags on a game worn Jason Bere for $15 at Soxfest. I spent the $150 savings on beer at the Fest so White Sox Charities got their money. I burnt a part of it using it as pot holder during a tailgate. White Sox Charities karma at its best. Expand You have been reported to Christine O'Reilly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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