chitownsportsfan Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, spiderman said: Is Merriweather considered to be a leader? Looking forward to Bernstein and Holmes making ridiculous comments about this move (if they sign him) because he didn't get vaccinated. he's white and hits 10 HR a year. He's perfect for the role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: I actually don’t want anything to do with Whit, but he makes even less sense with the additions of DeJong & Lopez. We definitely need to add an outfielder one way or the other, but Whit shouldn’t be that dude. Naw man this is our ben zobrist, total swiss army knife. You won't understand until you see what Grifol can do with him. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, bmags said: Naw man this is our ben zobrist, total swiss army knife. You won't understand until you see what Grifol can do with him. the knife: 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I actually don’t want anything to do with Whit, but he makes even less sense with the additions of DeJong & Lopez. We definitely need to add an outfielder one way or the other, but Whit shouldn’t be that dude. Yes, get an actual OF. Not a guy who is more of an every day utility type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie for Manager Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Even though this would be a big nothing of a signing. His Offensive WAR was 1.5 last year. All our second basement combined were .4 so its a huge upgrade. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, bmags said: Naw man this is our ben zobrist, total swiss army knife. You won't understand until you see what Grifol can do with him. I just look forward to this lineup at some point next year once Moncada goes down with an injury: Andrew Benintendi, LF* Whit Merrifield, 2B Luis Robert, CF Gavin Sheets, RF# Andrew Vaughn, 1B Paul DeJong, 3B Mark Payton, DH* Nicky Lopez, SS* Korey Lee, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I just look forward to this lineup at some point next year once Moncada goes down with an injury: Andrew Benintendi, LF* Whit Merrifield, 2B Luis Robert, CF Gavin Sheets, RF# Andrew Vaughn, 1B Paul DeJong, 3B Mark Payton, DH* Nicky Lopez, SS* Korey Lee, CA Eloy, traded or not, also hurt in this scenario. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I just look forward to this lineup at some point next year once Moncada goes down with an injury: Andrew Benintendi, LF* Whit Merrifield, 2B Luis Robert, CF Gavin Sheets, RF# Andrew Vaughn, 1B Paul DeJong, 3B Mark Payton, DH* Nicky Lopez, SS* Korey Lee, CA You expect Robert to stay healthy also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Eloy, traded or not, also hurt in this scenario. Traded but also likely hurt yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Writers just trying to stay relevant. I don't believe Merrifield or Perez are coming here. Chris Getz 40 Man Roster Player Acquisitions 9/5/23 RP Yohan Ramirez (29) 10/3/23 RP Alex Speas (26) 11/14/23 SP Jake Eder (26) 11/14/23 SP Cristian Mena (22) 11/16/23 SS Braden Shewmake (27) 11/16/23 SP Michael Soroka (27) 11/16/23 SP Jared Shuster (26) 11/16/23 SS Nicky Lopez (29) 11/28/23 SS Paul DeJong (31) 12/6/23 SP Shane Drohan (25) Pending SP Erick Fedde (31) Chris Getz 40 Man Roster Player Removals (DFA/Demotions/Players Electing FA) 8/25/23 RP Brent Honeywell (29) 9/4/23 C Seby Zavala (31) 11/2/23 C Yasmani Grandal (36) 112/23 RP Bryan Shaw (37) 11/2/23 SS Elvis Andrus (36) 11/3/23 OF Clint Frazier (30) 11/3/23 OF Trayce Thompson (33) 11/3/23 RP Liam Hendriks (35) 11/3/23 SP Mike Clevinger (34) 11/4/23 SS Tim Anderson (31) 11/16/23 RP Aaron Bummer (31) 11/28/23 CF Adam Haseley (28) 11/30/23 RP Nicholas Padilla (28) Chris Getz 40 Man Roster Players In-n-Out In 9/9/23 Out 11/2/23 Jose Urena (33) In 9/26/23 Out 10/3/23 Tyler Naquin (33) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, fathom said: You expect Robert to stay healthy also? For this one particular game yes…but I also ran out of OF options for this hypothetical. Probably should have thrown Romy in there…lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: For this one particular game yes…but I also ran out of OF options for this hypothetical. Probably should have thrown Romy in there…lol. I'm more mad you still had Gavin in the OF over Mark Payton lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, fathom said: You expect Robert to stay healthy also? Fathom, given next year is trash, what are the odds they sell high on Robert now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'm more mad you still had Gavin in the OF over Mark Payton lol f*** it, what's Daniel Palka up to? He was at least fun bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 all he said was "could be an excellent match'....calm down people calm down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, SoCalChiSox said: Fathom, given next year is trash, what are the odds they sell high on Robert now? Trading Robert now wouldn't be selling high. No matter the return, it still won't match his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, MEANS said: all he said was "could be an excellent match'....calm down people calm down Oh its happening, one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, MEANS said: all he said was "could be an excellent match'....calm down people calm down People are upset because 1. It's an awful match 2. These national writers are plugged in and especially Morosi with that whole Michigan connection thing with Getz. I hope this is just a "OK Mike, if you don't want to trade us an OF Savage, that's OK ill sign Merrifield cause I'm not expected to win anyway and even our owner doesn't care, and our fans expect garbage signings so it doesn't cost me anything and doesn't bother me and I'm happy to watch you burn" leak by Getz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Trading Robert now wouldn't be selling high. No matter the return, it still won't match his value. His value is dependent on injuries and maintaining mega power and GG ability in CF. Someone suggested Top 10, plus Top 50, plus two back end Top 100s. If we aren't winning anyway for two years, who cares? That's hard to turn down if someone would pay it. I dont think we would get that 2 years from now even if he's still playing at a 5 WAR level. And if we aren't winning for two years what are we waiting for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, SoCalChiSox said: His value is dependent on injuries and maintaining mega power and GG ability in CF. Someone suggested Top 10, plus Top 50, plus two back end Top 100s. If we aren't winning anyway for two years, who cares? That's hard to turn down if someone would pay it. I dont think we would get that 2 years from now even if he's still playing at a 5 WAR level. And if we aren't winning for two years what are we waiting for? This is the point. Not many teams could even pay that if they wanted to. Edited December 6, 2023 by Bob Sacamano 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 right but he said it a couple days ago on the podcast too and it's been mentioned since the season ended...this ISN'T A NEW RUMOR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: This is the point. Not many teams could even pay that if they wanted to. There are a handful that could and there's others that could pay a couple Top 100 plus some young cost controlled good MLB players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 41 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: he's white and hits 10 HR a year. He's perfect for the role. and he doesn't start fist fights with other teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: His value is dependent on injuries and maintaining mega power and GG ability in CF. Someone suggested Top 10, plus Top 50, plus two back end Top 100s. If we aren't winning anyway for two years, who cares? That's hard to turn down if someone would pay it. I dont think we would get that 2 years from now even if he's still playing at a 5 WAR level. And if we aren't winning for two years what are we waiting for? So 4 top 100s, including a top 10 and top 50? How many teams could actually do that? And how many of those teams are in a position to give that up and still be a competitive? Its a price few could and or would pay. I'm not saying the Sox should or shouldn't trade him while they are abysmal, it's just hard for me to see a team being willing to pay the price. Or the Sox actually getting adequate value for his 4 remaining years of cost control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: So 4 top 100s, including a top 10 and top 50? How many teams could actually do that? And how many of those teams are in a position to give that up and still be a competitive? Its a price few could and or would pay. I'm not saying the Sox should or shouldn't trade him while they are abysmal, it's just hard for me to see a team being willing to pay the price. Or the Sox actually getting adequate value for his 4 remaining years of cost control. Right. If only one or two teams could pay it, why would those one or two teams even pay that much if there aren't many competitors. Just hold at least another year/year and a half and see if there could be some sort of quick turn around where things go better in 2025 somehow. Can still trade him then. For now, we will still need a reason to watch and he's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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