Quin Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Considering the Reds have De La Cruz, Marte, Encarnacion-Strand, McLain, India, and Barrero - you have to imagine someone is getting dangled as a trade piece. Obvious candidate is India, but still feels worth noting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Jeimar Candelario definitely wins the award for "dude who is way better than you expect every time you look it up" but you can see by the contract how skeptical everyone is about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Quin said: Considering the Reds have De La Cruz, Marte, Encarnacion-Strand, McLain, India, and Barrero - you have to imagine someone is getting dangled as a trade piece. Obvious candidate is India, but still feels worth noting. And Steer even. Though I think he is moving to the OF. India probably gets traded somewhere too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: And Steer even. Though I think he is moving to the OF. India probably gets traded somewhere too. TL;DR - no reason to make this signing unless the Reds are trading some of them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just realized Arroyo also wasn't named. Man, so deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Insert 'but why' .gif here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I guess we overpaid for Moncada... 17.8m this year, 24.8m next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 MLB contracts starting to feel like NBA contracts, "he got paid what?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, HOFHurt35 said: MLB contracts starting to feel like NBA contracts, "he got paid what?" Remember that the next time an owner claims "hardship" or 'financial issues" LOL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, HOFHurt35 said: MLB contracts starting to feel like NBA contracts, "he got paid what?" Despite the ability to stay on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Wow he only got 45 dollars for three years seems low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Wow he only got 45 dollars for three years seems low He can buy 1 skyline chili a year 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Wow he only got 45 dollars for three years seems low Candelario is one year removed from being terrible. I can see why teams would be reluctant to give him a ton of money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, KipWellsFan said: I guess we overpaid for Moncada... 17.8m this year, 24.8m next year. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/yoan-moncada-16234/ Still owed $29-54 million over the next two years...but 98% $24 and buyout of $5million if not traded at DDL this year. Would have to hit a minimum of 725-750 with GG defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Reds have way too many infielders unless 2-3 are changing to outfielders. Steer can, obviously. And an opening at first base for Votto...where Steer can also go. Jonathan India and Nick Senzel two of the more obvious odd men out...will try to convince Getzy they have his second baseman of the future on their roster. Edited December 7, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, KipWellsFan said: I guess we overpaid for Moncada... 17.8m this year, 24.8m next year. If you go and look at similarity scores for Yoan on Baseball Reference, Candelario is 2nd on the list. Candelario has actually been more productive since 2019, which for a player with the prospect pedigree of Moncada, is pretty sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, chw42 said: If you go and look at similarity scores for Yoan on Baseball Reference, Candelario is 2nd on the list. Candelario has actually been more productive since 2019, which for a player with the prospect pedigree of Moncada, is pretty sad. Yoan's managed to make Byron Buxton look like less of a disappointment, somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Reds have way too many infielders unless 2-3 are changing to outfielders. Steer can, obviously. And an opening at first base for Votto...where Steer can also go. Jonathan India and Nick Senzel two of the more obvious odd men out...will try to convince Getzy they have his second baseman of the future on their roster. Didn’t Senzel get released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Timmy U said: Didn’t Senzel get released? He signed with the Nationals yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: He signed with the Nationals yesterday Straight up swap for Candelario. I actually think he has a chance to be good for the Nats Cincy jerked him around his entire career. Leave him in one spot defensively and give him some AB’s he might surprise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Wow he only got 45 dollars for three years seems low The standard of living in Cincinnati is pretty low so he'll be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Timmy U said: Didn’t Senzel get released? Missed that...not really surprising, the White Sox have their own version already in Colas. Edited December 8, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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