Sleepy Harold Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Sleepy Harold said: Must be nice to print money and actually spend it on good players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: I'd have tried to get an opt out if he could have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'd have tried to get an opt out if he could have. Glasnow is electric when healthy, but a five year deal seems extremely risky for him on the wrong side of 30 Nice when you have a huge budget 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, EloyJenkins said: Tampa's method of business is just unreal smart. How has Jerry not realized he can MAKE EVEN MORE PROFIT if he just hired all of the Rays staff/executives... Because that would require him to meet and talk to new people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Already Getz, slow walking this is a good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, Snopek said: Because that would require him to meet and talk to new people. Pretty crazy that if you don't want to spend big money on players, spend it in scouting and development and then you can just cycle through good players and trade them before they get super expensive and you restock the farm and have suitable replacements on the cheap ready to fill the hole that was created. Seems like this would be perfect for a guy like JR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) An insane contract for a dude who averaged like 80 innings over his career. Edited December 15, 2023 by Rusty_Kuntz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Rusty_Kuntz said: An insane contract for a dude who averaged like 80 innings over his career. Dodgers and Mets do a lot of these signings. Neither have won a full season World Series since the Reagan administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, T R U said: Pretty crazy that if you don't want to spend big money on players, spend it in scouting and development and then you can just cycle through good players and trade them before they get super expensive and you restock the farm and have suitable replacements on the cheap ready to fill the hole that was created. Seems like this would be perfect for a guy like JR. Completely agree that it would be perfect in a world where he wasn’t just mailing it in at this point. But unfortunately he is, so the upfront work required to change is, well, work. And that’s too big of an ask for a dude that just wants to coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Rusty_Kuntz said: An insane contract for a dude who averaged like 80 innings over his career. Their Eovaldi now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Snopek said: Completely agree that it would be perfect in a world where he wasn’t just mailing it in at this point. But unfortunately he is, so the upfront work required to change is, well, work. And that’s too big of an ask for a dude that just wants to coast. Anti Rays... Ran down values of Anderson Kopech Moncada Madrigal Vaughn and Eloy. Even Cease to a lesser extent. Then watched Robert become too valuable to trade...and too risky for other teams to put together prospect packages. Then matched them together with some of the worst coaches in baseball and top it all off by decapitating your scouting department as well. Oh and lost Rodon for pretty much nothing. Fortunate to get what they did for Giolito because the Angels we're so desperate to hold onto Ohtani. Might have sold high on Burger...time will tell there if Ramos was the better long term play. Of course that trade also might have gotten KW and Hahn fired, too, for being at cross-purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 This is the sort of deal I was looking for with Cease: a Young pitcher, a young OF and, a couple of longshot prospects (Rays received a salary dump in lieu of the longshot prospects). The pitcher looks good; I can't tell about the OF on stats, but the Rays fans think he has star potential. I think it's easier for a GM to trade away players like this versus "top prospects" for which there is always high scrutiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, GreenSox said: This is the sort of deal I was looking for with Cease: a Young pitcher, a young OF and, a couple of longshot prospects (Rays received a salary dump in lieu of the longshot prospects). The pitcher looks good; I can't tell about the OF on stats, but the Rays fans think he has star potential. I think it's easier for a GM to trade away players like this versus "top prospects" for which there is always high scrutiny. Pitcher was Top 5 organizationally....second half of Top 100 MiLB, but then put up really solid big league numbers in the late season call up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/shohei-ohtanis-video-pitch-helps-190635452.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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