fathom Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Seems like to Cease to the Dodgers is close then. I’m guessing we get Busch, Sheehan, Pages, & Sweeney. Nah they’re getting Glasnow. Bob has been quite accurate of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) AA is an aggressive GM. I think they could deal two top 100 prospects, Grissom, and then 2 other prospects if they wanted to. Don't think Braves are dealing Kelenic. Edited December 13, 2023 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 In order for the Braves to win, it would require both pitchers, Kelenic and something else like Grissom. Harold said we are going to get bats in this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) Also, should we really assume that the Dodgers dealing Pepiot + 1 other guy for Glasnow ($25M salary) would not have continued interest in Cease, who is going to make about $8.5M? They'll still be trying to add another arm. Edited December 13, 2023 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Seems like to Cease to the Dodgers is close then. I’m guessing we get Busch, Sheehan, Pages, & Sweeney. That would be really good. Don't like the #1, but Sweeney as #4 helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: Also, should we really assume that the Dodgers dealing Pepiot + 1 other guy for Glasnow ($25M salary) would not have continued interest in Cease, who is going to make about $8.5M? They'll still be trying to add another arm. I don't think it takes them out of it either IF they don't get Yamamoto. I'm counting on them grabbing Kershaw again already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, fathom said: Nah they’re getting Glasnow. Bob has been quite accurate of late. Grissom would have the be the 3rd piece for it to work. Plus I'd need a nice 4th. Their 1 and 2 pieces are weak imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Dodgers rotation (assuming Pepiot is traded for Glasnow): 1. Buehler 2. Glasnow 3. Miller 4. Yarbrough 5. Sheehan Kershaw will probably re-sign. I feel like Yarbrough is better as a long-man/6th starter type. Sheehan or Miller could hypothetically be a part of a Cease deal. I agree though, it depends on if they get Yamamoto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Grissom would have the be the 3rd piece for it to work. Plus I'd need a nice 4th. Their 1 and 2 pieces are weak imo. I'd say maybe even extend it to 5 pieces. But who knows, AA could end up being more aggressive than the Reds and O's GMs. Edited December 13, 2023 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 If it's ATL and it doesn't involve both pitchers, it would need to be a 3 team deal. AJSS, a LHS from somewhere else, +. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Dodgers rotation (assuming Pepiot is traded for Glasnow): 1. Buehler 2. Glasnow 3. Miller 4. Yarbrough 5. Sheehan Kershaw will probably re-sign. I feel like Yarbrough is better as a long-man/6th starter type. Sheehan or Miller could hypothetically be a part of a Cease deal. I agree though, it depends on if they get Yamamoto. They aren’t trading Miller. Also, I’m not sure if Dodgers need the extra year for Cease as much as others, as they should have May/Ohtani/Buehler back for 2025 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'd say maybe even extend it to 5 pieces. But who knows, AA could end up being more aggressive than the Reds and O's GMs. I really want the O's. Surprised theres been no mention of the Rangers honestly. They have the farm to pull it off, just won a WS, in a tough division, and in need of another SP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Seems like to Cease to the Dodgers is close then. I’m guessing we get Busch, Sheehan, Pages, & Sweeney. This would be a very good haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, fathom said: They aren’t trading Miller. Also, I’m not sure if Dodgers need the extra year for Cease as much as others, as they should have May/Ohtani/Buehler back for 2025 I believe Buehler is a free agent after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: I believe Buehler is a free agent after this season. And a hypothetical 1-year signing of Kershaw. Also Glasnow. Also, this brings up a great question on if Ohtani will be in a 6-man rotation in 2025 like he has been his whole MLB career to this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 Fathom is almost certainly right about this trade being likely (especially with Rosenthal reporting it), but the question is why did this Glasnow stuff leak ahead of time. And why is Nightengale pumping the Braves as a likely landing point concurrently. If you believe that all info out there is purposeful, then it suggests a game of chicken for Cease between the Sox & Dodgers. Again, I’m sure this trade is happening, just surprised it leaked early and to MLB Nerds first. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Fathom is almost certainly right about this trade being likely (especially with Rosenthal reporting it), but the question is why did this Glasnow stuff leak ahead of time. And why is Nightengale pumping the Braves as a likely landing point concurrently. If you believe that all info out there is purposeful, then it suggests a game of chicken for Cease between the Sox & Dodgers. Again, I’m sure this trade is happening, just surprised it leaked early and to MLB Nerds first. Personally, I'm not a believer in every single Tweet being purposeful, ha. Edited December 13, 2023 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Fathom is almost certainly right about this trade being likely (especially with Rosenthal reporting it), but the question is why did this Glasnow stuff leak ahead of time. And why is Nightengale pumping the Braves as a likely landing point concurrently. If you believe that all info out there is purposeful, then it suggests a game of chicken for Cease between the Sox & Dodgers. Again, I’m sure this trade is happening, just surprised it leaked early and to MLB Nerds first. This is a very good point. Bob has historically been used to leak stuff that our FO wants out there. I really really don't want ATL to be the trading partner so I hope you're right and it's a strategic leak to scare LAD. On the other hand, the fact that we are leaking to scare LAD and not BAL suggests Elias is still being a dickless coward and maybe the FO has given up on trying to persuade him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: This is a very good point. Bob has historically been used to leak stuff that our FO wants out there. I really really don't want ATL to be the trading partner so I hope you're right and it's a strategic leak to scare LAD. On the other hand, the fact that we are leaking to scare LAD and not BAL suggests Elias is still being a dickless coward and maybe the FO has given up on trying to persuade him. I really think a few of Yamamoto, Snell and Montgomery need to sign before we see the Cease market really heat up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, steveno89 said: I really think a few of Yamamoto, Snell and Montgomery need to sign before we see the Cease market really heat up Yep, and it’s been reported by a lot of people this is the case. Also, Sahadev Sharma was on MLB Network and said Cubs could be interested in Cease or Burnes, but the “tax” might be too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, fathom said: FWIW, Nightengale predicts Cease to Braves Was this recently or from his notes column last week? I thought Atlanta too but I honestly don't think it's them. They just don't have enough I don't think. It would always be really out of character for AA. Edited December 13, 2023 by Y2Jimmy0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Was this recently or from his notes column last week? I thought Atlanta too but I honestly don't think it's them. They just don't have enough I don't think. It would always be really out of character for AA. An article from today he lists Braves as likely landing point. Why would this be out of character for AA out of curiosity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Was this recently or from his notes column last week? I thought Atlanta too but I honestly don't think it's them. They just don't have enough I don't think. It would always be really out of character for AA. Jimmy can you give us some morsels here. If you had to predict now where would it be and roughly what compensation do you expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Was this recently or from his notes column last week? I thought Atlanta too but I honestly don't think it's them. They just don't have enough I don't think. It would always be really out of character for AA. I don;t think this takes the Dodgers out of the running especially if they miss on Yamamoto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I don;t think this takes the Dodgers out of the running especially if they miss on Yamamoto. Whats going on with Baltimore Harold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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