WHarris1 Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Can a Chicago team ever live up to their hype? The Bulls are playing once again with no god damn effort. They look like they don't give a damn. They are also going to be 1-3 after tonight. :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scwible Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Yea, jebus. I din't expect them to be great but i didn't expect what i've seen so far. The Score is already talking about who's gonna replace Bill Cartwright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted November 4, 2003 Author Share Posted November 4, 2003 Yea, jebus. I din't expect them to be great but i didn't expect what i've seen so far. The Score is already talking about who's gonna replace Bill Cartwright. I expected them to be respectable. This is far from respectable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssHatSoxFan Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 bill cartwright isnt the reason this team cant shoot or do anything remotely close to right this is embarassing i had hope :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Yea, jebus. I din't expect them to be great but i didn't expect what i've seen so far. The Score is already talking about who's gonna replace Bill Cartwright. During the third quarter of the first game I was wondering how we got stuck with Cartwright as our coach, and how long he should last. Isaid fire him in after the 3rd quarter. But I know he is a "connected" guy and he not going anywhere. But if you thought the sox were passionless, The bulls will show you how to really not care. On a side note Tim Floyd is 3-0 ? who knew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssHatSoxFan Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 well chandler has seemed to emerge at least in these 2 disappointments only good thing i guess :begood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Down 84-56 now, pretty embarrising start to the year. I think John Paxson mite wanna bring in his own guy soon if things don't improve quick. My Magic only shot 25% and lost to the Knicks at home so they both got sumthin in common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 That was just ugly. This offseason I wanted the Bulls to can Cart and hire Gundy. Cart is alright, but Van Gundy is one heck of a coach. I sure hope the Bulls can get their s*** together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Yea, jebus. I din't expect them to be great but i didn't expect what i've seen so far. The Score is already talking about who's gonna replace Bill Cartwright. As well they should BC is not a good coach , dam Curry plays no D, I thought BC would teach him something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Yea, jebus. I din't expect them to be great but i didn't expect what i've seen so far. The Score is already talking about who's gonna replace Bill Cartwright. As well they should BC is not a good coach , dam Curry plays no D, I thought BC would teach him something. What good, proven head coaches are out there. The offseason was the time to do it with Eddie Jordan, Silas and Van Gundy all out their. I don't even want to hear the name Pat Riley. One guy I like is one of the Lakers assistants and former player Kurt Rambis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Yea, jebus. I din't expect them to be great but i didn't expect what i've seen so far. The Score is already talking about who's gonna replace Bill Cartwright. As well they should BC is not a good coach , dam Curry plays no D, I thought BC would teach him something. What good, proven head coaches are out there. The offseason was the time to do it with Eddie Jordan, Silas and Van Gundy all out their. I don't even want to hear the name Pat Riley. One guy I like is one of the Lakers assistants and former player Kurt Rambis. How bout Doc Rivers? He mite get fired soon if Orlando doesn't pick it up soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Yea, jebus. I din't expect them to be great but i didn't expect what i've seen so far. The Score is already talking about who's gonna replace Bill Cartwright. As well they should BC is not a good coach , dam Curry plays no D, I thought BC would teach him something. What good, proven head coaches are out there. The offseason was the time to do it with Eddie Jordan, Silas and Van Gundy all out their. I don't even want to hear the name Pat Riley. One guy I like is one of the Lakers assistants and former player Kurt Rambis. How bout Doc Rivers? He mite get fired soon if Orlando doesn't pick it up soon. Personally I think he's probably the most over-rated coach in the NBA. So many people raved about him a few summers ago when all those free agents spurred the Bulls, but he's never shown me much anything as a head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 You know something is wrong when Steve Francis calls a team selfish, and too individualized. There has been no team effort at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochpuppy Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Right now the whole league can't shoot the ball. They all look like college scores for cryin' out loud. Something needs to change. NBA = Nothin' But Air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 And how the hell does Eddy Curry score one damned point on 8 shots in 28 minutes of play. Cartwright needs to give that boy an elbow to the head and wake him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 This is an interview with Paxson from today's Trib Toning down his rhetoric but not his message, Bulls general manager John Paxson criticized his team's effort again Tuesday, while adding he won't overreact after just four games. But Paxson made it clear three blowout losses by an average of 29 points is unacceptable and the fallout will be monitored closely. "This is an opportunity for certain people to look inside themselves and turn it around," Paxson said. "That's what I'm watching for. "We're going to find—somehow—guys who are going to compete and don't hang their heads when things don't go well. [Coach] Bill Cartwright certainly has a green light if he doesn't feel guys are working hard enough or playing the right way to sit them down. "I'd rather go down with guys who are playing their rear ends off." The problems with the Bulls are so many and varied it's difficult to know where to begin. Effort is one. Poor shot selection is another. Defense is a third. Because such huge expectations were placed on his young, broad shoulders, Eddy Curry is a good place to start. Curry led the league in field-goal percentage last season but has flailed and forced his way to 35.7 percent shooting thus far. Gone, for now, are the nimble moves and confident shot selection that fueled his 58.5 percent shooting last season. In their place are an inability to read what defenses are giving him and a loss of confidence. "He's just out of balance," Cartwright said. "He's getting frustrated. If he doesn't make his first two shots, then he's feeling anxiety instead of just playing. You push through it and you'll be fine. That's what he has to learn." Paxson continues to point toward Curry's lack of summer conditioning, the result of an eye injury. When Curry did work out, he did so at Hoops The Gym—which former GM Jerry Krause placed off limits—rather than at the Berto Center. A hamstring injury also slowed Curry during training camp. Heeding the team's motto, he didn't make excuses, pointing to Wednesday against a center-starved Orlando team as a possible breakout game. "A lot of times I want to hurry up and make something happen so that I can get myself going," Curry said. "But I also don't want to take an ill-advised shot. I know I'm still a good player. It's just not happening for me right now. It's going to come." Another problem area is Jalen Rose. Sidelined all of training camp with sprained thumb ligaments, Rose has looked out of sync offensively. He's shooting 30 percent and playing tentatively, perhaps struggling to conform to an offense with more scoring options. Rose vowed to change that Tuesday. "I have to take initiative that this is my team," he said. "I have to lead the team. I have to make plays for guys and make these young guys better." For a team that's next-to-last in points and last in field-goal percentage, this could be viewed as positive news. But management is concerned Rose will try to do too much. "Jalen can do that inside of what we do offensively," Cartwright said. "Because he has been out, he's not in the condition he needs to be in. Obviously, I think he's going to shoot better. I think we're all going to shoot better when we start playing with one another." Enter the point guard, Jamal Crawford. He has taken eight more shots than anyone on the team and 16 more than Curry, running counter to management's desire to work from the inside out. More troubling, he doesn't rank among the top 28 in assists, which may be why Cartwright keeps talking about Kirk Hinrich's return from the injured list like it's the second coming. Hinrich will be activated Thursday. "We really have guys who are just trying to do too much," Cartwright said. "We play our best basketball when we move the ball, we share it and situations are created. "What has been happening is that guys have just been trying to hang on to the ball and take it upon themselves to do too much. I don't necessarily view that as being selfish." Houston's Steve Francis does. In language as strong as any player uses about another team, Francis said after Monday's game that Bulls players think more about themselves than the team. "I think he's right," Tyson Chandler said. "Until we buy into what [Cartwright] wants us to execute, we're going to keep suffering those losses." That said, nobody expected this. For a team that rarely struggled to score last season, the offensive ineptitude is staggering. This probably isn't the time to mention that the Bulls have lost nine straight in Orlando and face a three-games-in-four-days stretch involving a flight to Orlando, a flight home and then another flight to New Orleans. "I still think putting expectations on these guys was the right thing to do," Paxson said. "That's this game. You have to have expectations." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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