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10 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

The Jazz or a AAA team surviving in Utah is one thing, but 81 home games in a tiny media market is a stretch IMO. Denver is 3 times the size of SLC and the Rockies are rarely ever relevant. Good luck ever courting a star FA to Salt Lake City.

Perhaps if they were really into genealogy. 

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2 hours ago, Texsox said:

Isn't the alternative for the government to be forcing the business to stay open in their city? No, you can't move. How would they even enforce that? Arrest the owners? If it's a publicly traded company arrest the board? Eminent domain? Marshall law. 

Sad, you are the only poster mentioning teams should be "forced" to stay open beyond the league denying a move.

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It seems like the only way to force them to stay is through a lease agreement. The government has to give something in return. 

Again, what many here and moral fair-minded people advocate is for government to giving billionaires (or anyone) billions of dollars. Not the Kleptocracy praised by the corporate media. Not surprised you are for it.

Also, I'm fine with the current state of baseball, the same as 97% of Americans who do anything besides watch the farce known as the "World Series". Teams competing for the "Piece of Metal" as your Boo calls it. No different than the cheap Chinese plastic s%*# for sale at Walmart or the Dollar Store.

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2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

This was back in the 90s.

Still don't see SLC being a Top 2-3 choice with Denver in that region.

What was? I'm definitely not following because they've had a Salt Lake Bees AAA team since '94 after the original(ish) SLC Bees left in '84. I know the owner of the Jazz wants to bring a NHL team there and hasn't been shy about that fact in public.

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25 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

What was? I'm definitely not following because they've had a Salt Lake Bees AAA team since '94 after the original(ish) SLC Bees left in '84. I know the owner of the Jazz wants to bring an NHL team there and hasn't been shy about that fact in public.

That's exactly the year I was interviewing....fall of 1993 winter meetings.

Remember being excited to meet Mike Veeck but he was quite irascible/grumpy.

Portland and SLC were in transition periods at that time.

 

Still think Nashville/Charlotte is one choice.  Mexico City wouldn't be totally shocking....if you look at it from Manfred's international the sport perspective.

 

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“Tennessee has recently emerged as a sought-after destination for real estate investment,” said Qiu. “Cities like Nashville and Memphis are experiencing rapid growth, driven by factors such as affordable housing, a favorable tax environment and a thriving music and entertainment industry. These factors position Tennessee as an attractive state for investors seeking to capitalize on its upward trajectory.”

Aaron May, a Realtor with Coastal Luxury Real Estate Partners, agrees.

“Tennessee has gained attention in recent years as a state with a favorable business environment and a low cost of living,” said May. “Nashville, in particular, has seen remarkable growth, fueled by its vibrant music and entertainment industry. With no state income tax and a steady influx of young professionals, the real estate market in Tennessee holds promise for the future.”

 

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/real-estate-agents-buy-property-145842517.html

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23 hours ago, Tnetennba said:

The Jazz or a AAA team surviving in Utah is one thing, but 81 home games in a tiny media market is a stretch IMO. Denver is 3 times the size of SLC and the Rockies are rarely ever relevant. Good luck ever courting a star FA to Salt Lake City.

99% of star free agents are going to whoever offers the most money.

You think players are lining up to go play in Buffalo, New York??

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2022 MSA Population & Population Growth 2022 vs. 2000

Current MLB Expansion Contenders:

  1. 4.4M Montreal (4.3M vs. 3.4M +0.9M)
  2. 2.8M Charlotte (2.8M vs. 1.3M +1.5M)
  3. 2.8M Orlando (2.8M vs. 1.7M +1.1M)
  4. 2.5M Portland (2.5M vs. 1.9M +0.6M)
  5. 2.3M Oakland (2.3M * vs. 2.1M +0.2M)
  6. 2.0M Nashville (2.0M vs. 1.3M +0.7M)
  7. 1.5M Raleigh (1.5M vs. 0.8M +0.7M)
  8. 1.3M Salt Lake City (1.3M vs. 1.0M +0.3M)

Additional United States Cities - MSAs > 1.6M  #41 Milwaukee (MLB's current smallest MSA)

  1. 4.7M Riverside (4.7M vs. 3.3M +1.4M)
  2. 2.7M San Antonio (2.7M vs. 1.7M +1.0M)
  3. 2.4M San Juan (2.4M vs. 2.5M -0.1M)
  4. 2.4M Austin (2.4M vs. 1.3M +1.1M)
  5. 2.4M Sacramento (2.4M vs. 1.8M +0.6M)
  6. 2.1M Indianapolis (2.1M vs. 1.5M +0.6M)
  7. 1.8M Virginia Beach (1.8M vs. 1.6M +0.2M)
  8. 1.7M Jacksonville (1.7M vs. 1.1M +0.6M)
  9. 1.7M Providence (1.7M vs. 1.6M +0.1M)

Additional International Cities for comparison purposes:

  1. 40.8M Tokyo (40.8M vs. 31.7M +9.1M)
  2. 22.0M Mexico City (22.0M vs. 18.5M +3.5M)
  3. 10.0M Seoul (10.0M vs. 9.9M +0.1M)
  4. 2.6M Vancouver (2.6M vs. 2.0M +0.6M)

Note *: Oakland's listed MSA is 1/2 of the total. for the area

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