baseball_gal_aly Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 21 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Why wait 2 years? May as well trade him with more than 2 years of control. Luis Robert may sell some tickets for Reinsdorf over the next two seasons but he isn’t leading the Sox to the playoffs. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, ptatc said: So to get good value they need to trade him with 2years left on his deal. They have him for 2 more years. Also more about playoff runs. Those additional two are extremely valuable to the acquiring team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Bor-ASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: He is so fucking gone 12 months from now!! Or sooner. If he puts up a monster 1st half this year, I'd be looking to trade him at the deadline. Can't screw around and wait for more injuries. A high performance healthy 1st half would mean he put up 1.5 years of good numbers and good health. Without going through his injury history my guess is prior to that he usually didn't play 3 months without getting hurt and missing significant time . And if he did it was never near his upside for very long. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Think we can get Joey Ortiz from the Orioles in a Robert trade? 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 39 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Or sooner. If he puts up a monster 1st half this year, I'd be looking to trade him at the deadline. Can't screw around and wait for more injuries. A high performance healthy 1st half would mean he put up 1.5 years of good numbers and good health. Without going through his injury history my guess is prior to that he usually didn't play 3 months without getting hurt and missing significant time . And if he did it was never near his upside for very long. Essentially 2 1/2 good years counting his breakout minor league season...where he jumped across multiple levels in one single year and exploded on the scene as a prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I’m surprised how many Sox fans are freaking out about this news. It means relatively nothing, as it’s almost a foregone conclusion another team will have to worry about re-signing him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, ron883 said: Think we can get Joey Ortiz from the Orioles in a Robert trade? Basallo, Mayo, Kjerstad, Westburg and/or pitching prospect...that's going to be the ask. No way they would risk trading Holliday, and getting just ONE player back for Robert still doesn't move the meter enough....have to get at least 2-3 guys out of it that become at the very least "well above average" (2.5-3 fWAR and up) major league regulars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Soto was the max value at 3 1/2 years remaining...if you compare to value at just 2. Significant difference between the two respective packages. Soto was traded with 2.5 years and 1 year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, baseball_gal_aly said: Bingo. He'd have so much value that I don't think anybody would be willing to meet the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 @Rolle Tide's trade idea on the O's board Orioles get Cease and Robert Padres get Hays/Mullins, Mountcastle, Urias, and Baumann White Sox …. Cowser, Ortiz, Snelling/Lesko, Zavala, Bradfield Jr., Thorpe, Norby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 There you go Getz. Go get a haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 11 minutes ago, ron883 said: @Rolle Tide's trade idea on the O's board Orioles get Cease and Robert Padres get Hays/Mullins, Mountcastle, Urias, and Baumann White Sox …. Cowser, Ortiz, Snelling/Lesko, Zavala, Bradfield Jr., Thorpe, Norby. Orioles aren’t getting Robert without giving up one of their top prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Realistically if we plan to trade Robert next winter, who are the clubs that would even have the prospects to get a deal done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, fathom said: Orioles aren’t getting Robert without giving up one of their top prospects. One? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Realistically if we plan to trade Robert next winter, who are the clubs that would even have the prospects to get a deal done? Cubs, Orioles, Brewers, Reds, Red Sox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 The Orioles wouldn’t be able to get Robert without Holliday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: One? Yeah, I meant as a vague statement. Biggest issue would be Orioles lack of pitching prospects. Would have to be something that would kill their system, which I don’t think they’d do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, fathom said: Yeah, I meant as a vague statement. Biggest issue would be Orioles lack of pitching prospects. Would have to be something that would kill their system, which I don’t think they’d do. I gotcha…and yeah, not getting Robert with their spare and second tier prospects alone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, ron883 said: Think we can get Joey Ortiz from the Orioles in a Robert trade? No. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Luis Robert for team captain/player manager/language coach/Pete Rose-Dale Carnegie award winner. Would actually prefer a news blackout for spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 5 hours ago, fathom said: I’m surprised how many Sox fans are freaking out about this news. It means relatively nothing, as it’s almost a foregone conclusion another team will have to worry about re-signing him. Sox fans are freaking out? I figured most can read the tea leaves here. Cease pretty much already told the story, as have many other top Sox players in the past nearing free agency. It’s just a matter of when he is traded, not if he will be. Edited January 11 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sambuca said: Soto was traded with 2.5 years and 1 year. Yeah...was off by one year. 3 1/2 years of .900 OPS (first half 2024) remaining and GG defending Robert wouldn't be much more than a 10-15% discount compared to Soto's initial trade value in summer 2022. Edited January 11 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 You’d have to get Holiday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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