Tnetennba Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: 12th street to 35th street is 23 blocks, there are 8 blocks to a mile in Chicago so it’s not quite 3 miles. Roosevelt to Cermak is one mile, despite the address numbers. Its a little over 2.5 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Roosevelt to Cermak is one mile, despite the address numbers. Its a little over 2.5 miles. Northside it 8 blocks a mile. I think some Southside is 10 per mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 BTW Gov. Pritzker has already stated state funds for a stadium isn't going to happen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: Northside it 8 blocks a mile. I think some Southside is 10 per mile. Between Madison and 31st, the address numbers don't align with the distance. Madison to Roosevelt is a mile, Roosevelt to Cermak, Cermak to 31st. All of the main streets on the Southside south of 31st line up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: In depth story on the location, its history and what would be needed infrastructure-wise to make it possible to build a stadium on it: https://soxmachine.com/2024/01/white-sox-exploring-chicago-ballpark-site-in-the-78/ I figured there had to be a lot of pollution remediation issues here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: I figured there had to be a lot of pollution remediation issues here. They were putting up tents for immigrants on a polluted lot. Why not a ballpark? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 16 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: BTW Gov. Pritzker has already stated state funds for a stadium isn't going to happen. Is there a link or something to his comments? I'd be interested in reading them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 5 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Is there a link or something to his comments? I'd be interested in reading them. It wasn't to this story specifically, but he mentioned it with the Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Is there a link or something to his comments? I'd be interested in reading them. This was from last year. https://www.forbes.com/sites/justinbirnbaum/2023/02/17/billionaire-jb-pritzker-benefited-from-tax-breaks-but-he-doesnt-think-the-chicago-bears-should/?sh=1bd63c8039c4 Quote As of now, Pritzker, a Democrat, appears lukewarm to the idea. “I love the Bears,” he said, “but it’s a private business, and I honestly don’t think the public has an obligation to fund, in this major way, a private business.” Edited January 18, 2024 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 (edited) Pritzker also commented on this new rumored Sox ballpark this morning. https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-politics/pritzker-weighs-in-on-idea-of-state-subsidies-for-possible-white-sox-south-loop-ballpark/3331403/?amp=1 Quote Pritzker was asked about potential state subsidies for the White Sox during a press event on Thursday morning. “Nobody’s made an ask yet. Having said that, I think you know my views on privately owned teams, and whether the public should be paying for private facilities that will be used for private business,” he said. “Having said that, there are things that government does to support business all across the state, investing in infrastructure and ensuring the success of business in Illinois,” he added. Edited January 18, 2024 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 Hold strong on that, JB 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 40 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: They were putting up tents for immigrants on a polluted lot. Why not a ballpark? The tent cities do not need all of the EPA approvals because they aren't disposing of the ground waste into a landfill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 12 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Hold strong on that, JB I don't think it really matters. JRhas shown he will finance a stadium when he is forced to and when it makes economic sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 I don't care about the stadium issue one iota. What difference does it make where they are playing if they still stink? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 3 hours ago, 35thstreetswarm said: I think a key part of the plans for building a zillion dollar stadium would involve removing the railroad tracks Aww, so it won't be like Brewster's Millions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: They were putting up tents for immigrants on a polluted lot. Why not a ballpark? Well neither of them are particularly good, but there are far more issues if you dig up the land to build something than if you let it sit there. Contaminants in the ground will be disturbed by construction, running pipes through the ground - pipes are never fully sealed, so you will be mobilizing them when water leaks in or out. During construction you kick up dust and if the dust is contaminated that's bad for the surroundings. It isn't insurmountable, but it does add costs during the development and construction phase. Frankly, it isn't unreasonable for the city and state to bear some of those costs, since they are a legacy of previous industries and they will be a barrier to turning this ground into taxable businesses long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 I have doubts about whether or not these are legit renders — especially so early in an unconfirmed process — but if so, I'm sold. https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10123020&postcount=1163 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 It looks very strange jutting up so closely to some high-rise buildings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 As an out of town Sox fan I love the idea that they would have a nice new stadium without expense. It's great for the team. I pay very little Illinois tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 16 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Well neither of them are particularly good, but there are far more issues if you dig up the land to build something than if you let it sit there. Contaminants in the ground will be disturbed by construction, running pipes through the ground - pipes are never fully sealed, so you will be mobilizing them when water leaks in or out. During construction you kick up dust and if the dust is contaminated that's bad for the surroundings. It isn't insurmountable, but it does add costs during the development and construction phase. Frankly, it isn't unreasonable for the city and state to bear some of those costs, since they are a legacy of previous industries and they will be a barrier to turning this ground into taxable businesses long-term. The largest cost is the specialized landfill permits needed to dump the contaminated soil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: Northside it 8 blocks a mile. I think some Southside is 10 per mile. Roosevelt to Cermak is one mile, despite the address numbers. Its a little over 2.5 miles. Madison to Roosevelt is 12 blocks to the mile. Roosevelt to Cermak is 10 blocks to a mile. Cermak to 31st is 9 blocks to a mile. Everywhere else, both north and south is 8 blocks to a mile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 25 minutes ago, Quin said: I have doubts about whether or not these are legit renders — especially so early in an unconfirmed process — but if so, I'm sold. https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10123020&postcount=1163 The giant screen on the outside of the stadium just SCREAMS JR doesn't it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 24 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: It looks very strange jutting up so closely to some high-rise buildings. Very San Diego-y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Hold strong on that, JB I'm not going to get into the public money debate here, but this sentiment sure worked out well for Oakland. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted January 18, 2024 Share Posted January 18, 2024 36 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: It looks very strange jutting up so closely to some high-rise buildings. JR will want those tenants to cover their windows during games so they don't get to watch for free! ? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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