fathom Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 This isn’t an indictment on Getz at all. If this was the quality of players they were giving up, no thanks. 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I think a big piece is also still to be added to the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, fathom said: This isn’t an indictment on Getz at all. If this was the quality of players they were giving up, no thanks. It's more of an indictment of Cease's value to other teams. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Maybe Sports Guy was Elias after all. It seems they really only wanted Ortiz to be the headliner lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, fathom said: I think a big piece is also still to be added to the deal How often does the big piece get reported last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 34th pick is a big piece 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 (edited) 34th pick in the draft too. Comp pick. That makes it a bit better. Extra bonus pool money to play with is not to be sneezed at. Edited February 2 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, baseball_gal_aly said: It's more of an indictment of Cease's value to other teams. Why? They went with the guy who has one year left on his deal. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, baseball_gal_aly said: It's more of an indictment of Cease's value to other teams. I guess we have to wait for the full trade to be reported, but so far this looks light for even only one year of Burnes, which has nothing to do with Cease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, fathom said: This isn’t an indictment on Getz at all. If this was the quality of players they were giving up, no thanks. Naw, it's not, this type of deal coming through for Burnes was an obvious reason why a strong deal for Cease was always unlikely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Maybe they’ll be in on Cease at deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: Naw, it's not, this type of deal coming through for Burnes was an obvious reason why a strong deal for Cease was always unlikely. Yamamoto picking the Dodgers was brutal for Getz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, baseball_gal_aly said: 34th pick is a big piece Would you have taken this return for Cease? I wouldn’t, and I’m glad Getz didn’t either. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 Anyone in the NL central now wanna jump in on the Cease market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, WhiteSox2023 said: Would you have taken this return for Cease? I wouldn’t, and I’m glad Getz didn’t either. No, and this is a smart move for both teams. The Orioles address a need with guys they didn't have room for. The Brewers get depth and control for a guy with little control - when they were already down Woodruff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Naw, it's not, this type of deal coming through for Burnes was an obvious reason why a strong deal for Cease was always unlikely. Huh? Byrnes is on a 1 year $15 million dollar deal. It’s not that comparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Naw, it's not, this type of deal coming through for Burnes was an obvious reason why a strong deal for Cease was always unlikely. But it’s not a good one to one comparison with Cease having two years of control. What does 1.5 times to double this package in value look like? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Looks like the pending Orioles sale will at least short term benefit the people of Baltimore. It's clear previous Orioles ownership was committed to doing the bare minimum in terms of contract commitments until they reached agreement both with the State of Maryland, who are pissed and calling the Angelos family scumbag liars, which they most certainly are and have been for decades, and before closing their deal with the hedge fund people Caulfield exposed. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/02/latest-details-on-sale-of-orioles.html Quote Treasurer Dereck Davis said that Angelos “categorically denied that that they were for sale” before selling the team. “It wasn’t just that we weren’t told something. We were lied to,” Davis said. “The transparency that was required — it was not there,” Gov. Moore said. “And it’s disappointing.” Still glad Getz is holding out for a great deal. I'm fine starting the season with Cease. There will be injuries among the handful of legitimate spending contending teams willing to spend, and the Sox should get a solid return for Cease assuming the White Sox are not in the AL Central Division lead or hunt in late July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 That seems like a horrendous return for the brewers… 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, T R U said: Huh? Byrnes is on a 1 year $15 million dollar deal. It’s not that comparable. No, but it completely satisfies the Orioles need for pitching and does so without sacrificing their best prospects. The fact that Burnes and Bieber were both likely available was an obvious thing that would undercut the market for Cease, they would be available for a much lower prospect price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: No, but it completely satisfies the Orioles need for pitching and does so without sacrificing their best prospects. The fact that Burnes and Bieber were both likely available was an obvious thing that would undercut the market for Cease, they would be available for a much lower prospect price. That's exactly why it was so unlikely that Cease would get moved this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 If you think Hall can actually start, then there is some logic to the move for the Brewers. That’s a big if though. I would expect Adames to traded next though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: No, but it completely satisfies the Orioles need for pitching and does so without sacrificing their best prospects. The fact that Burnes and Bieber were both likely available was an obvious thing that would undercut the market for Cease, they would be available for a much lower prospect price. Are we actually comparing Burnes and Bieber? And all the rumors suggested Burnes wasn’t very available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: If you think Hall can actually start, then there is some logic to the move for the Brewers. That’s a big if though. I would expect Adames to traded next though. Yep, this was them punting this year in order to backfill SP and SS after Burnes/Adames left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: No, but it completely satisfies the Orioles need for pitching and does so without sacrificing their best prospects. The fact that Burnes and Bieber were both likely available was an obvious thing that would undercut the market for Cease, they would be available for a much lower prospect price. It doesn’t completely satisfy the Orioles needs at all. The Orioles need starting pitching for more than just one year, which is what Burnes will be for them. Their competitive window is not one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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