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Orioles Acquire Corbin Burnes for Ortiz/Hall/34th Pick


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1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

This is an amazing class....  Wheeler, Burnes, Fried, Bieber, Buehler, tons of depth guys, some high risk/reward guys.  Potential Cole opt out.  This has to be one of the best SP classes in years right? What am i missing.

We’re talking about guys like this on non-contenders.  Unlikely most of those names will on the block come July, which is good for a Cease market.

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6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

We’re talking about guys like this on non-contenders.  Unlikely most of those names will on the block come July, which is good for a Cease market.

Oh I thought he was talking about guys available in FA, not available at the deadline due to their incoming FA.. My bad

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Padres will look to move Darvish or Musgrove for roughly seventy-five to  eighty cents on the dollar if they're out of the WC race this year at the trade deadline...or perhaps newly-acquired Michael King. depending upon how he pitches.

Or Preller could just as easily make one last desperation push for Cease to try to save his job.

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6 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

But all I heard last offseason is how great Elias is. All I kept saying is it’s much easier to tear down, rebuild, show signs of promise then it is to actually put a team over the top to a championship. I think folks are understanding that now.

He’s made many of the same mistakes Hahn made in 2020-2022. Signing bad free agent veterans for key roles (Kimbrel), trading promising young players for busts (Trevor Rogers), not building enough depth for areas of limited roster depth (starting rotation and bullpen), and relying too heavily on unproven prospects to be immediate significant mlb contributors during their competitive window (Holliday, Mayo, Povich, etc).

His biggest issue moving forward is that their starting rotation is a nightmare in 2025, he has very little in the minors to backfill the holes, and I don’t think they will be big players for the top arms in free agency. Additionally, he’s lost much of his prospect capital to potentially acquire a front end arm via trade. And by lost, I mean a combination of relying on those once prospects to now fill key mlb roles moving forward, he’s no longer drafting in the top 5 of the mlb draft so it’s more difficult to supplement the farm than it was before, and lastly he has traded away quite of prospect capital over the past 12 months. Elias is in a tough spot and I still see a path for this latest Orioles rebuild effort to flame out much quicker than the most anticipated.

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I assumed the Orioles were already a lock for the playoffs but I just checked the standings and they’re only 4.5 games up on the Tigers for the last wild card spot and the two teams play a 3 game series this weekend. Still a long shot but things get very interesting if the Tigers sweep that series. Wild

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3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

It is truly amazing how the Tigers, Twins, and Royals are in the playoff picture because of how bad the Sox are lol

Twins record against the Sox: 12-1

Royals: 12-1

Tigers: 9-1

It's the ultimate payback to the Orioles for going cheap.

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10 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Let's hope they don't get in. Maybe this force them to be more aggressive for Crochet in the offseason.

Perhaps but if Elias gets very aggressive and the trade backfires it will completely blow up their competitive window. In lieu of significant payroll increases, it’s already on edge imo.

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38 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

It's the ultimate payback to the Orioles for going cheap.

My grandmother-in-law talked so much s%*# when the Orioles played the Sox and I was like "do you think I expect the Sox to win?"

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1 minute ago, Quin said:

My grandmother-in-law talked so much s%*# when the Orioles played the Sox and I was like "do you think I expect the Sox to win?"

yeah, I have definitely gotten a cycle of interactions from other fans.  First laughter, then mockery, and now lately pity.

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2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

yeah, I have definitely gotten a cycle of interactions from other fans.  First laughter, then mockery, and now lately pity.

Anyone that talks s%*# I'm like "Sir, I hate and mock them more than you ever could."

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Seeing as I don’t live in Chicago, most fans I meet aren’t Sox fans. A few will make jabs or laugh, but most are empathetic at this point. I found it more difficult to wear my Sox gear in 2005/2006 because everyone assumes you just jumped on the bandwagon, and suddenly you need to defend your fandom. 

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On 9/19/2024 at 12:19 PM, Quin said:

Anyone that talks s%*# I'm like "Sir, I hate and mock them more than you ever could."

My typical interactions are telling Cubs fans they’re not making the playoffs either. At least people are talking about the Sox. 

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39 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I would be OK with no on speaking of them again after this season

I think we all agree that we like talking (writing) about the Sox. I think it’s a miracle of the modern world, that we all know how to read and write, we possess the gift of literacy, yet we waste it writing about the worst baseball team ever instead of anything worthwhile. 

Personally I checked out of the season around the all star break. But planning to go to one of these last home games. I have to go to at least one game this year, right?

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