Texsox Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 12 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Leury Lynn Kopech Keuchel Grifol Montoyo Benintendi Kelly Leury played to his ability. I don't think a player was more set up to fail with fans and on the field than the legend. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 minute ago, Texsox said: Leury played to his ability. I don't think a player was more set up to fail with fans and on the field than the legend. And that's a reason to have him on there. He was not only overpaid, but the manager went so far as to bat him 3rd in the middle of a losing streak because the manager thought he looked good in the batting cages. That's a way to put the manager on the mountain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 16 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: And that's a reason to have him on there. He was not only overpaid, but the manager went so far as to bat him 3rd in the middle of a losing streak because the manager thought he looked good in the batting cages. That's a way to put the manager on the mountain. He put him 3rd in the order in response to Hahn telling him not to play him so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 5 minutes ago, ptatc said: He put him 3rd in the order in response to Hahn telling him not to play him so much. Which is totally reasonable and rational for a team that says they are trying to win a division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I think it would be easier to do a Mount Rushmore of players/coaches that have actually worked out. Too many to choose from in the failure category 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: I think it would be easier to do a Mount Rushmore of players/coaches that have actually worked out. Too many to choose from in the failure category Abreu, Cease, Gio, and — about to make people big mad — TA. The judgment period is from 2020 to 2023, and until Hanser Alberto's horrendous fielding led to TA's knee getting punched, TA playing correlated with wins (thank you @South Side Hit Men for that data), he was an 2x All-Star (and starter) + the peak moment of this all is the Field of Dreams game. Can also sub TA for Hendriks and I wouldn't be mad. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Which is totally reasonable and rational for a team that says they are trying to win a division. Part of that dysfunctional FO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 58 minutes ago, Quin said: Abreu, Cease, Gio, and — about to make people big mad — TA. The judgment period is from 2020 to 2023, and until Hanser Alberto's horrendous fielding led to TA's knee getting punched, TA playing correlated with wins (thank you @South Side Hit Men for that data), he was an 2x All-Star (and starter) + the peak moment of this all is the Field of Dreams game. Can also sub TA for Hendriks and I wouldn't be mad. Thank You. Yes, TA was horrible last year, there is no argument. But putting him on a greatest failure list is pretty ridiculous. If anything he is one of the Sox greatest success stories of this era. His fall from grace was as ugly as possible, but that should not outshine the peaks of his success. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, Swingandalongonetoleft said: If there was a way to somehow represent the failed Friends & Family Plan attempt at Machado, that would be my etrant. I guess either one of Jon Jay, Yonder Alonso, or Machado works as well. Yeah this was the prequel to the failed rebuild. "The money will be spent" Yadda Yadda Yadda. JR is supposed to be an amazing businessman no? If so, then he know all along that no player was going to turn down 50 million in guaranteed $$ to play one season with his BFF and brother in law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoeless_joe21 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Maybe we could chisel in a little Drake LaRoche face somewhere nearby. Pre-rebuild, but I still think of that saga as a precursor of dysfunction to come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Does the reason/ title of this topic come from last week's Soxtalk podcast.? If not, it should. The topic of that podcast was something like" Yoan Mocada: It's now or never". Anyway, Ryan McGuffy had one of my favorite quotes EVER concerning the Sox and their recent failures: "Yoan Moncada is the Abe Lincoln on the Mount Rushmore of White Sox busts." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, vilehoopster said: Does the reason/ title of this topic come from last week's Soxtalk podcast.? If not, it should. The topic of that podcast was something like" Yoan Mocada: It's now or never". Anyway, Ryan McGuffy had one of my favorite quotes EVER concerning the Sox and their recent failures: "Yoan Moncada is the Abe Lincoln on the Mount Rushmore of White Sox busts." I get Moncada being a disappointment. But I think McGuffy is taking it a bit far. He's put up over 14 WAR in 727 games as a Pale House. Its over 3.0 fWAR per 162, That's not even close to one of the biggest busts in team history. Edited February 7 by Dick Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: I get Moncada being a disappointment. But I think McGuffy is taking it a bit far. He's put up over 14 WAR in 727 games as a Pale House. Its over 3.0 fWAR per 162, That's not even close to one of the biggest busts in team history. So glad I don’t hand a penny over for any of these hacks televised on JerryVision. They are all buffoons except for The Big Hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: I get Moncada being a disappointment. But I think McGuffy is taking it a bit far. He's put up over 14 WAR in 727 games as a Pale House. Its over 3.0 fWAR per 162, That's not even close to one of the biggest busts in team history. Man, if I'm picking anyone from the current crop, it's Eloy. But even then, McGuffey is clearly forgetting how HORRID it was for a while. Doesn't he technically work with Gordon Beckham? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Every single time this thread comes up all I can think of is how literally everyone of substance who had shown success before just absolutely cratered once Drunk Grandpa showed up. It was uncanny and 100% predictable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just one large carving of JR with a caption that says "The money was spent". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Dam8610 said: Just one large carving of JR with a caption that says "The money was spent". With his arm around Hahn's shoulder, comforting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 We’re going to need a bigger mountain …….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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