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1 hour ago, baseball_gal_aly said:

I don't blame anyone for thinking that nothing has changed until proven otherwise. 

Would you do everything the same as your boss if you were promoted? 

19 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Jimmy, anything new on the Cease front?

You implied the other day things were heating up with BAL again.

I’ve got nothing. I’d heard that Baltimore circled back when Bradish got hurt. Not sure on likelihood. Some still think Cease moves. I personally think deadline is more likely now. Sox really expected Snell and Montgomery to be signed by now 

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5 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

This is crazy. We need to see Gonzalez play this year before making any sort of declaration like this. 

Smith-Njigba isn’t really a great fit as a LHH OF. Sox have a 40-man crunch already. 

Again, Sox have a real 40-man crunch. 

No they don’t. A real 40-man crunch implies they would lose someone of significance. This roster is trash and there are at least 10 guys they could cut today and very few people would care.

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9 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Would you do everything the same as your boss if you were promoted? 

I’ve got nothing. I’d heard that Baltimore circled back when Bradish got hurt. Not sure on likelihood. Some still think Cease moves. I personally think deadline is more likely now. Sox really expected Snell and Montgomery to be signed by now 

This off season has given big time collusion vibes.

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20 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

The Sox expected two Boras clients, both veteran pitchers looking for that last big deal, to have signed already?

I mean, OK. You can expect that, but I can also expect a 60 degree sunny week ahead here in God's own PNW in the middle of February.

They believed that if they leaked enough times that there was a hot market for him, it would lead to a hot market for him. They told everyone who would listen for two months how hot his market was and were surprised that didn’t work.

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1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

They believed that if they leaked enough times that there was a hot market for him, it would lead to a hot market for him. They told everyone who would listen for two months how hot his market was and were surprised that didn’t work.

My personal belief is there was a hot market, but their asking price was insane.  I said it at the time, but the Reds proposed trade with Lowder, Petty and the two other prospects (not the ridiculous 5 prospect one that was bogus) made me think Getz was asking for way too much.

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52 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Would you do everything the same as your boss if you were promoted? 

I’ve got nothing. I’d heard that Baltimore circled back when Bradish got hurt. Not sure on likelihood. Some still think Cease moves. I personally think deadline is more likely now. Sox really expected Snell and Montgomery to be signed by now 

If Snell goes to NYY, does BAL get desperate for Cease ?

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1 minute ago, fathom said:

My personal belief is there was a hot market, but their asking price was insane.  I said it at the time, but the Reds proposed trade with Lowder, Petty and the two other prospects (not the ridiculous 5 prospect one that was bogus) made me think Getz was asking for way too much.

That's fine, as there will probably be a hot market for him in July as well. And maybe then they'll get what they want. I don't think it's a bad thing a deal hasn't gotten done. Hell, if nothing else it cooled off Orioles fans crowing on this site.

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49 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

No they don’t. A real 40-man crunch implies they would lose someone of significance. This roster is trash and there are at least 10 guys they could cut today and very few people would care.

I don’t agree. It’s not that easy to navigate right now. 

48 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This off season has given big time collusion vibes.

As far as clubs having the same valuations, yes. The QO is brutal though. Guys like Bellinger and Snell should’ve considered taking the QO if they wanted 7-10 year deals. Now that they have the QO attached, it makes a 1-2 year deal far less likely. 

30 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

The Sox expected two Boras clients, both veteran pitchers looking for that last big deal, to have signed already?

I mean, OK. You can expect that, but I can also expect a 60 degree sunny week ahead here in God's own PNW in the middle of February.

I mean come on. Nobody thought those guys would be unsigned as camp opened. 

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6 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

 

I mean come on. Nobody thought those guys would be unsigned as camp opened. 

With Snell and Bellinger I think the path to that was obvious. Who wants to guarantee those guys $200 million with how inconsistent they’ve been?

Some guys teams got out ahead of, like Nola, but it was obvious this market would be iffy this offseason.

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1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I don’t agree. It’s not that easy to navigate right now. 

As far as clubs having the same valuations, yes. The QO is brutal though. Guys like Bellinger and Snell should’ve considered taking the QO if they wanted 7-10 year deals. Now that they have the QO attached, it makes a 1-2 year deal far less likely. 

I mean come on. Nobody thought those guys would be unsigned as camp opened. 

It’s very easy to navigate right now. The Sox have tons of guys they could cut who would likely clear waivers and in the event that they don’t, it’s not some devastating loss. They should absolutely be using this time to upgrade the 40-man when possible.

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47 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

It’s very easy to navigate right now. The Sox have tons of guys they could cut who would likely clear waivers and in the event that they don’t, it’s not some devastating loss. They should absolutely be using this time to upgrade the 40-man when possible.

Romy Gonzalez got claimed. Teams take chances all the time on imperfect players if they think they can fix them.

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53 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

And that’s fine. The White Sox still do not have a real crunch at the 40-man at the moment. They just don’t.

There is a decent chance that some young guy the White Sox dump from their 40 man this year (Romy, Sosa, Colas, Lee etc.) goes on to be a quality player with some other team.

It might not count as a 40 man crunch but they've created something truly weird here, where they are absolutely overloaded with NRIs and they have a manager who already has indicated he would rather play a 40 year old NRI than a promising kid. Maybe it's a "voluntary roster crunch" or a "managerial roster crunch", because the manager wants the vets and the kids have to be dumped as a consequence.

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5 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

The Sox expected two Boras clients, both veteran pitchers looking for that last big deal, to have signed already?

I mean, OK. You can expect that, but I can also expect a 60 degree sunny week ahead here in God's own PNW in the middle of February.

Bor-ASS starting to learn baseball does not revolve around his clients inflated asking prices forever. 

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14 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

There is a decent chance that some young guy the White Sox dump from their 40 man this year (Romy, Sosa, Colas, Lee etc.) goes on to be a quality player with some other team.

It might not count as a 40 man crunch but they've created something truly weird here, where they are absolutely overloaded with NRIs and they have a manager who already has indicated he would rather play a 40 year old NRI than a promising kid. Maybe it's a "voluntary roster crunch" or a "managerial roster crunch", because the manager wants the vets and the kids have to be dumped as a consequence.

I’m not even really referring to those guys. I’m more so referring the Tanner Banks, Sammy Peralta, Jesse Scholtens types. No one is going to be that devastated if those guys get claimed.

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28 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

I’m not even really referring to those guys. I’m more so referring the Tanner Banks, Sammy Peralta, Jesse Scholtens types. No one is going to be that devastated if those guys get claimed.

Exactly.  If Getz can’t cut a guy like Scholtens loose for a 24 year old lefty outfielder with good minor league numbers, he’s doing the GM thing wrong.

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