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2 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

In general, I would agree but…

2024 ST Hitting

  • 28th - HRs
  • 29th - OBP
  • 29th - OPS

2024 ST Pitching

  • 29th - ERA
  • 30th - WHIP
  • 28th - K / BB

2023 Hitting

  • 20th - HRs
  • 30th - OBP
  • 29th - OPS

2023 Pitching

  • 26th - ERA
  • 24th - WHIP
  • 27th - K / BB

What were they in 2005? 

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FG seems pretty close. if not Sheets, it’s Moustakas. I am not sure Fletcher has locked up rf. He has not looked particularly good. And Ortega of all people is getting tons of abs. The fact that Getz mentioned Nastrini on the broadcast yesterday is a good sign for him. Though, if there is a roster crunch, that would benefit Shuster. I do not think Toussaint makes the team unless he has really shown something in his bullpens.

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I found Baseball Prospectus solid in terms of Rotisserie projections over the years beyond the validity of PECOTA, because their staff does a solid job projecting playing time and keeping up with changes.

Here is the link to BP’s current White Sox projected 2024 playing time splits:

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/orgs/chicago-white-sox/depth-charts/

Depth chart analyst: Brian Duricy

Pitchers (Innings > 30) Hitters (Plate Appearances > 175)

  • Starters (8): 1. Fedde (153); 2. Soroka (102); 3. Flexen (105); 4. Nastrini (78); 5. Crochet (106); Thorpe (65); 6. Toussaint (88); 7. Schuster (31).
  • Relievers (8): Brebbia, Kopech & Wilson (64); Hill (57); Garcia & Peralta (50); Banks & Speas (43)
  • Catchers (3): Stassi (280); Maldonado (210); Lee (175)
  • First base (1): Vaughn (595)
  • Second base (2): Lopez (385); Sosa (245)
  • Third Base (1): Moncada (595)
  • Shortstop (2): DeJong (385); Shewmake (245)
  • Left field (1): Benintendi (595)
  • Center field (1): Robert (595)
  • Right field (2): Fletcher (385); Colas (280)
  • Designated Hitter (2): Jimenez (520); Sheets (420).
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Can we kind of get back on topic of the projected starting lineups?

Three questions: 

1. When discussing starting rotations, not sure how or where I heard or read it, but it seems clear, or it was strongly implied, that Drew Thorpe is going right into the starting rotation.  Does anyone else get that vibe from Sox media?  Merkin doesn't have Thorpe in his starting rotation, but I got a feeling from his earlier discussing the trade and on Garfien's podcast that Thorpe would be stepping right into the starting rotation. 

2. How would Crochet being a starter work?  Would he go longer that three innings?  I can't see how he should.  And really, even with three building up to four or five inning starts, I can't see him pitching into July, unless he's taking two weeks off between starts. How will this work?  

3. Is the idea to use Crochet for a couple months, short outings, and then bring in Thorpe or someone else ?

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On 3/16/2024 at 10:34 AM, Timmy U said:

FG seems pretty close. if not Sheets, it’s Moustakas. I am not sure Fletcher has locked up rf. He has not looked particularly good. And Ortega of all people is getting tons of abs. The fact that Getz mentioned Nastrini on the broadcast yesterday is a good sign for him. Though, if there is a roster crunch, that would benefit Shuster. I do not think Toussaint makes the team unless he has really shown something in his bullpens.

I take these more as Getz declarations than uninformed "predictions", but do with them as you wish.

https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2024-opening-day-roster

Starting Lineup: C Maldonado; 1B Vaughn; 2B Lopez LSS DeJong; 3B Moncada SLF Benintendi LCF Robert Jr.; RF Fletcher LDH Jimenez

Reserves: C Stassi; OF Pillar; 2B-SS Shewmake; 1B-3B Moustakas

Rotation: 1 Fedde; 2 Soroka; 3 Flexen; 4 Crochet L5 Nastrini

Bullpen: CL/SU Kopech; Leasure; Wilson MR Banks L; Chavez; Hill L; Leone Swing/Long Garcia

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47 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

I take these more as Getz declarations than uninformed "predictions", but do with them as you wish.

https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-2024-opening-day-roster

Starting Lineup: C Maldonado; 1B Vaughn; 2B Lopez LSS DeJong; 3B Moncada SLF Benintendi LCF Robert Jr.; RF Fletcher LDH Jimenez

Reserves: C Stassi; OF Pillar; 2B-SS Shewmake; 1B-3B Moustakas

Rotation: 1 Fedde; 2 Soroka; 3 Flexen; 4 Crochet L5 Nastrini

Bullpen: CL/SU Kopech; Leasure; Wilson MR Banks L; Chavez; Hill L; Leone Swing/Long Garcia

Thanks. Not gonna be Shewmake now. I wonder about Jesse Chavez. I get that he's a "respected veteran" but eventually you get too old or Eddie Collins would the Sox second baseman. He has been lukewarm garbage all spring. Maybe it doesn't matter. In which case, stop touting what a competition the whole thing is.

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