Kyyle23 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: What’s worse? Giving Nicky Lopez $4.3 million or Merrifield $8 million? In the immortal words of John Fox in his bears era, “it’s all bad” 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) Attach Colas in a Cease deal if you might get 2 OFs back from a team for him and they’re worried about OF depth. f*** it. Edited February 17 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Attach Colas in a Cease deal if you might get 2 OFs back from a team for him and they’re worried about OF depth. f*** it. Colas has negligible value right now...although probably more so to other teams who think they can still work with him. Edited February 17 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Colas has negligible value right now...although probably more so to other teams who think they can still work with him. Yeah right now anyone else in MLB thinks there’s probably a 50% or better chance Colas is on waivers before the deadline. Only so many 40 man roster spots available for all those Royal NRIs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Again, Colas is nowhere near “sink or swim”. Sox could park him in AAA for all of 24-25 and wouldn’t need to make an actual decision on him until opening day 2026. Well, that makes 2 of us saying Colas doesn't need to be rushed immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: What’s worse? Giving Nicky Lopez $4.3 million or Merrifield $8 million? Both? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Who says the Sox can’t sign Boras clients?!? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 What value does a backup third baseman bring to a roster. Using a roster spot for Pedro's chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GreenSox said: What value does a backup third baseman bring to a roster. Using a roster spot for Pedro's chemistry. Ultimately, it probably means nothing in the grand scheme of things but Moustakas can backup 3B and 1B and it ideally means Sheets is not on the opening day roster so Grifail won’t have the opportunity to play him in the outfield. Edited February 17 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Ultimately, it probably means nothing in the grand scheme of things but Moustakas can backup 3B and 1B and it ideally means Sheets is not on the opening day roster so Grifail won’t have the opportunity to play him in the outfield. No Sheets is great and all, until Pedro does with Moustakas what TLR did with Leury... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 6 hours ago, Tnetennba said: No Sheets is great and all, until Pedro does with Moustakas what TLR did with Leury... Moustakas has never played any position other than 3B, 1B, and 2B. I have faith that Pedro won’t play him in the outfield like he has with Sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) I can see people anticipating concerns Jerry, Getz and Pedro will sacrifice development to “win now” as they have the past three years under the ongoing Tony/Pedro Combo Meal. The Sox are 235-251 going “all in” since firing Ricky Renteria. Sosa is the one player out of the current prospects I’d start 4-5 games a week between 2B, 3B and SS. Would much rather have Sosa on the roster to see what he can do than having Moustakas. Would also prefer the Sox have Eloy work at 1B this Spring to see if he can handle 10-20 games a year to cover Vaughn, than carry Sheets, Moustakas or some other DH type in one of the four precious reserve spots to back up 1B. It’s in Eloy’s interest as well to try to pick up 1B to be more valuable than a DH only player. Edited February 18 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Moustakas has never played any position other than 3B, 1B, and 2B. I have faith that Pedro won’t play him in the outfield like he has with Sheets. I think he’s the “insurance” or plan once Eloy inevitably pays his usual IL visit at some point over the course of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I’m glad the Sox got Moose. Can’t waste a year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 22 hours ago, Dick Allen said: I’m glad the Sox got Moose. Can’t waste a year. I have no idea what you are saying here but have a nice emoji for having said it. I think it's sarcasm about something . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 4 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I have no idea what you are saying here but have a nice emoji for having said it. I think it's sarcasm about something . In his press conference announcing the Getz promotion, JR said that the Sox could win in 2024 with a few tweaks to the roster, and they didn’t need to waste a year or more rebuilding. Meanwhile, every acquisition this offseason has been for a guy fished out of the dumpster. Edited February 19 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: In his press conference announcing the Getz promotion, JR said that the Sox could win in 2024 with a few tweaks to the roster, and they didn’t need to waste a year or more rebuilding. Meanwhile, every acquisition this offseason has been for a guy fished out of the dumpster. I mean, they just need 3 starting pitchers, 4 bullpen arms, bounce-back and/or breakout performances out of LF, 3B, DH, and upgrades to C, 2B, SS, and RF, and they're right there in the thick of things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/18/2024 at 12:34 AM, WhiteSox2023 said: Moustakas has never played any position other than 3B, 1B, and 2B. I have faith that Pedro won’t play him in the outfield like he has with Sheets. I meant more play him way way too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 31 minutes ago, JoeC said: I mean, they just need 3 starting pitchers, 4 bullpen arms, bounce-back and/or breakout performances out of LF, 3B, DH, and upgrades to C, 2B, SS, and RF, and they're right there in the thick of things. Sounds like you're telling me there's a chance! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 29 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Sounds like you're telling me there's a chance! Sox are beyond overdue for a season where a lot of things go right. Last one was 2012. Edited February 19 by baseball_gal_aly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 32 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Sounds like you're telling me there's a chance! To reverse that, yes - about one in a million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 10 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: In his press conference announcing the Getz promotion, JR said that the Sox could win in 2024 with a few tweaks to the roster, and they didn’t need to waste a year or more rebuilding. Meanwhile, every acquisition this offseason has been for a guy fished out of the dumpster. JR says and does whatever wants. He has no intention or interest in making Getz job easy. Hired because he failed upwards and rookie GM happy to just get the opportunity . Wondering if JR is ever told you know most teams have staff 3 times as large as ours, you could invest in scouting and developing like TB . We could win the division a lot with young players who we then trade when they peak , get better prospects back since we sell high, keep the high level young talent coming in , really invest in making them the best they can be with staff and equipment. In the end it costs less, JR ,Staff costs a lot less than players but payroll stays low because our players are so young. It's not easy, always need the best talent evaluators and commit to it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: JR says and does whatever wants. He has no intention or interest in making Getz job easy. Hired because he failed upwards and rookie GM happy to just get the opportunity . Wondering if JR is ever told you know most teams have staff 3 times as large as ours, you could invest in scouting and developing like TB . We could win the division a lot with young players who we then trade when they peak , get better prospects back since we sell high, keep the high level young talent coming in , really invest in making them the best they can be with staff and equipment. In the end it costs less, JR ,Staff costs a lot less than players but payroll stays low because our players are so young. It's not easy, always need the best talent evaluators and commit to it . JR has publicly said in the past he doesn't believe in paying for potential that's one of the reasons he fought so hard for a cap on draftees and salary slots. I know you way makes the most sense but remember JR always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and his way is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 11 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: JR has publicly said in the past he doesn't believe in paying for potential that's one of the reasons he fought so hard for a cap on draftees and salary slots. I know you way makes the most sense but remember JR always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and his way is right. Veteran GM's don't want to work for him. He doesn't give them anything . He's king of his domain and he and his investors all did well and he intends to keep it that way until he can't. Edited February 20 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I think Sheets might have some trade value, perhaps as a throw in to a possible Baltimore trade, if that is at all possible at some point....since his father played for the O's. He is faster than I thought in RF and has a decent arm. He can also platoon at 1B and DH or pinch hit late in games when the only hope left lies with a HR to tie or win. Moose has a shot in ST though. It will be fun to watch all of the competition for getting on the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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