South Side Hit Men Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Chris Getz is the fourth in a succession of White Sox GMs , and the fifth in Jerry Reinsdorf's ownership tenure, who value TWTW, The Will To Win, above all other quantitative metrics in vogue around MLB. WAR - Common metric used by most people to record a player's total contribution to a team's performance. TWTW - Chicago White Sox proprietary methodology used to record a player's total contribution to a team's performance, TWTW is a revolutionary concept established by Hawk Harrelson in 1986. Larry Himes was the lone non-adherent and was quickly fired as a result. Ron, Kenny and Rick all followed the core principles of TWTW until they left the organization. Sox fans can sleep well at night knowing Chris Getz is also a firm believer in the TWTW philosophy. Chris acknowledged TWTW as a key component to his approach this offseason, during his interview with Scott Merkin published yesterday. https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/chris-getz-discusses-first-six-months-as-white-sox-gm Quote Getz set out to improve the team defensively, making the White Sox a comfortable and hopefully attractive place for pitchers, which is baseball’s most important commodity. He also consciously added players who were clubhouse presences, and players with a history of winning. Jerry Reinsdorf is fully committed to the TWTW philosophy. Rather than pay players top dollar for the Ohtani's and Trout's of this world. he is able to reward players who do things his way, the White Sox way, and pay less money for players unwanted by the other 29 ballclubs using modern metrics to evaluate players. With Liam and Tim's 2024 status settled this week, I can now unveil the secrets of TWTW as they apply to the 2024 Chicago White Sox including The Departed. TWTW Score = Net wins/losses above/below .500 vs. White Sox overall record. Can only be earned as a member of the Chicago White Sox (founded in 1981). Example: Sammy Peralta has a positive 20 score, based on the fact the White Sox were only 10 games under .500 during games he appeared, whereas the White Sox were 30 games under .500 in games he did not appear. Note: A player's TWTW does not reset if they leave and return to the team. TWTW scores live in perpetuity, like the eternal flame in Arlington Virginia. This rule is also known as The Harold Baines Rule. TWTW and Game Winning RBIs were the two key metrics used by Jerry and Tony to shove Harold into the BBHOF. (21) Chicago White Sox TWTW Scores entering Spring Training 2024: 60 Michael Kopech (53-50 3) vs. (245-302 -57) 42 Jose Rodriguez (1-0 1) vs. (60-101 -41) 41 Dylan Cease (66-57 9) vs. (276-308 -32) 30 Touki Toussaint (7-12 -5) vs. (54-89 -35) 28 Deivi Garcia (0-6 -6) vs. (61-95 -34) 20 Sammy Peralta (3-13 -10) vs. (58-88 -30) 16 Korey Lee (6-18 -12) vs. (55-83 -28) 8 Jesse Scholtens (5-21 -16) vs. (56-80 -24) 0 Davis Martin (7-7 0) vs. (74-74 0) -3 Garrett Crochet (35-41 -6) vs. (156-159 -3) -10 Lenyn Sosa (19-44 -25) vs. (123-138 -15) -12 Yoan Moncada (341-393 -52) vs. (132-172 -40) -15 Luis Robert Jr. (181-193 -12) vs. (91-88 3) -18 Oscar Colas (23-52 -29) (38-49 -11) -26 Andrew Benintendi (59-92 -33) vs. (2-9 -7) -28 Andrew Vaughn (196-219 -23) vs. (40-35 5) -32 Jimmy Lambert (32-51 -19) vs. (238-225 13) -34 Tanner Banks (15-52 -37) vs. (127-130 -3) -36 Eloy Jimenez (205-236 -31) vs. (139-134 5) -71 Matt Foster (45-64 -19) vs. (165-113 52) -72 Gavin Sheets (127-172 -45) vs. (109-82 27) (19) Potential Chicago White Sox awaiting their first TWTW opportunity in 2024: 0 Prelander Berrora 0 John Brebbia 0 Josimar Cousin 0 Paul DeJong 0 Zach DeLoach 0 Shane Drohan 0 Jake Eder 0 Erick Fedde 0 Dominic Fletcher 0 Chris Flexen 0 Tim Hill 0 Nicky Lopez 0 Martin Maldonado 0 Bryan Ramos 0 Branden Shewmake 0 Jared Shuster 0 Michael Soroka 0 Alex Speas 0 Max Stassi (8) Former White Sox MLB Players in the Organization and or NRIs, but currently not on the 40-Man Roster: 34 Nicholas Padilla (0-3 -3) vs. (61-98 -37) 30 Lane Ramsey (8-13 -5) vs. (53-88 -35) 28 Edgar Navarro (1-7 -6) vs. (60-94 -34) 16 Bryan Shaw (13-25 -12) vs. (48-76 -28) 8 Zach Remillard (19-35 -16) vs. (42-66 -24) 4 Mark Payton (5-3 2) vs. (76-78 -2) 4 Carlos Perez (8-26 -18) vs. (134-156 -22) -3 Danny Mendick (79-72 7) vs, (202-192 10) (31) 2023 Chicago White Sox Players - The Departed: 184 Liam Hendriks (109-26 83) vs. (127-228 -101) Boston Red Sox 137 Aaron Bummer (158-136 22) vs, (315-430 -115) Atlanta 131 Alex Colome (65-24 +41) vs. (104-194 -90) Free Agent 101 Kendall Graveman (77-33 44) vs. (77-137 -60) Houston Astros 80 Lucas Giolito (79-85 -6) vs. (394-480 -86) Boston Red Sox 74 Joe Kelly (51-34 17) vs. (91-148 -57) Los Angeles Dodgers 63 Reynaldo Lopez (96-110 -14) vs. (376-453 -77) Atlanta 52 Billy Hamilton (46-28 18) vs. (108-142 -34) Free Agent 42 Keynan Middleton (20-19 1) vs. (41-82 -41) Saint Louis Cardinals 42 Clint Frazier (17-16 1) vs. (44-85 -41) Free Agent 40 Adam Haseley (21-21 0) vs. (121-161 -40) Free Agent 40 Hanser Alberto (15-15 0) vs, (46-86 -40) Free Agent 40 Mike Clevinger (12-12 0) vs. (49-89 -40) Free Agent 38 Jake Marisnick (4-5 -1) vs. (57-96 -39) Los Angeles Angels 34 Tyler Naquin (1-4 -3) vs. (60-97 -37) Free Agent 28 Trayce Thompson (41-51 -10) vs. (97-135 -38) New York Mets 26 Luis Patino (0-7 -7) vs. (61-94 -33) San Diego Padres 20 Lance Lynn (36-35 1) vs. (200-219 -19) Saint Louis Cardinals 20 Jose Urena (0-10 -10) vs. (61-91 -30) Texas Rangers 16 Gregory Santos (24-36 -12) vs. (37-65 -28) Seattle Mariners 14 Yohan Ramirez (9-22 -13) vs. (52-79 -27) New York Mets 5 Seby Zavala (81-95 -14) vs. (226-245 -19) Seattle Mariners 2 Jake Diekman (10-29 -19) vs. (132-153 -21) New York Mets -12 Romy Gonzalez (36-50 -14) vs. (199-201-2) Boston Red Sox -20 Brent Honeywell Jr. (15-25 -10) vs. (46-76 -30) Pittsburgh Pirates -26 Declan Cronin (1-8 -7) vs. (60-93 -33) Miami Marlins -28 Jake Burger (66-88 -22) vs. (169-163 6) Miami Marlins -30 Tim Anderson (419-483 -64) vs. (132-166 -34) Miami Marlins -33 Yasmani Grandal (171-192 -21) vs. (101-89 12) Pittsburgh Pirates -34 Elvis Andrus (59-96 -37) vs. (83-86 -3) Free Agent -77 Jose Ruiz (71-140 -69) vs. (333-325 8) Philadelphia Phillies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 You knew Hawk was done when he kept throwing around TWTW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 Wonder if the Sox will finally finish over .500 as an organization during Getz' tenure. 2005 was the last full season the Chicago White Sox and their net affiliates both finished over .500. 2010 was the last season the organization played minor league games and finished net over .500 as an organization. Overall GM Records - Hired by Jerry Reinsdorf 1-10-0 Rick Hahn 5-5-2 Ken Williams 6-3-1 Ron Schueler 3-1-0 Larry Himes 0-1-0 Hawk Harrelson Overall GM Record - Hired by Bill Veeck 5-0-0 Roland Hemond Seasons the entire White Sox organization finished over .500: 2020 (10 > .500) MLB: 35-25 .583 - Rick Hahn 2010 (7 > .500) MLB: 88-74 .543 & Minors: 385-392 .495 - Ken Williams 2009 (75 > .500) MLB: 79-83 .488 & Minors: 425-346 .551 - Ken Williams 2008 (13 > .500) MLB: 89-74 .546 & Minors: 415-417 .499 - Ken Williams 2005 (41 > .500) MLB: 99-63 .611 & Minors: 352-347 .504 - Ken Williams 2004 (10 > .500) MLB: 83-79 .512 & Minors: 353-347 .504 - Ken Williams 2000 (5 > .500) MLB: 95-67 .586 & Minors: 330-353 .483 - Ron Schueler (Fired) 1999 (17 > .500) MLB: 75-86-1 .466 & Minors: 357-329 .520 - Ron Schueler 1994 (47 > .500) MLB: 67-46 .593 & Minors: 397-361 .524 - Ron Schueler 1993 (66 > .500) MLB: 94-68 .580 & Minors: 397-357 .527 - Ron Schueler 1992 (97 > .500) MLB: 86-76 .531 & Minors: 421-334 .558 - Ron Schueler 1991 (7 > .500) MLB: 87-75 .537 & Minors: 339-344 .496 - Ron Schueler 1990 (14 > .500) MLB: 94-68 .580 & Minors: 343-355 .491 - Larry Himes (Fired) 1989 (91 > .500) MLB: 69-92 .429 & Minors: 404-290 .582 - Larry Himes 1988 (18 > .500) MLB: 71-90 .441 & Minors: 366-329 .527 - Larry Himes 1985 (35 > .500) MLB: 85-77-1 .525 & Minors: 293-266 .524 - Roland Hemond (Fired) 1984 (54 > .500) MLB: 74-88 .457 & Minors: 317-249 .560 - Roland Hemond 1983 (53 > .500) MLB: 99-63 .611 & Minors: 280-263 .516 - Roland Hemond 1982 (69 > .500) MLB: 87-75 .537 & Minors: 310-253 .551 - Roland Hemond 1981 (13 > .500) MLB: 54-52 .509 & Minors: 240-229 .512 - Roland Hemond Seasons the entire White Sox organization finished at .500: 2012 (.500) MLB: 85-77 .525 & 2012 Minors: 381-389 .495 - Ken Williams (Promoted) 2003 (.500) MLB: 86-76 .531 & 2003 Minors: 344-354 .493 - Ken Williams 1997 (.500) MLB: 80-81 .497 & Minors: 345-344 .501 - Ron Schueler Seasons the entire White Sox organization finished under .500: 2023 (126 < .500) MLB: 61-101 .377 & Minors: 284-370 .434 - Rick Hahn (Fired) 2022 (78 < .500) MLB: 81-81 .500 & Minors: 293-371 .441 - Rick Hahn 2021 (92 < .500) MLB: 93-69 .574 Minors: 243-359 .404 - Rick Hahn 2019 (29 < .500) MLB: 72-89 .427 & Minors: 367-379 .492 - Rick Hahn 2018 (53 < .500) MLB: 62-100 .383 & Minors: 370-385 .490 - Rick Hahn 2017 (115 < .500) MLB: 67-95 .414 & Minors: 336-424 .442 - Rick Hahn 2016 (123 < .500) MLB 78-84 .481 & Minors: 322-439 .423 - Rick Hahn 2015 (16 < .500) MLB: 76-86 .469 & Minors: 377-383 .496 - Rick Hahn 2014 (87 < .500) MLB: 73-89 .451 & Minors: 345-416 .416 - Rick Hahn 2013 (62 < .500) MLB: 63-99 .389 & Minors: 372-398 .483 - Rick Hahn 2011 (4 < .500) MLB: 79-83 .488 & Minors: 386-386 .500 - Ken Williams 2007 (95 < .500) MLB: 72-90 .389 & Minors: 382-459 .454 - Ken Williams 2006 (87 < .500) MLB: 90-72 .556 Minors: 365-470 .437 - Ken Williams 2002 (47 < .500) MLB: 81-81 .500 & Minors: 320-367 .466 - Ken Williams 2001 (2 < .500) MLB: 83-79 .512 Minors: 339-345 .496 - Ken Williams 1998 (12 < .500) MLB: 80-82-1 .494 & Minors: 336-346 .493 - Ron Schueler 1996 (113 < .500) MLB: 85-77 .556 Minors: 387-508 .432 - Ron Schueler 1995 (62 < .500) MLB: 68-76-1 .472 & Minors: 421-475 .470 - Ron Schueler 1987 (19 < .500) MLB: 77-85 .475 & Minors: 307-318 .491 - Larry Himes 1986 (63 < .500) MLB: 72-90 .444 & Minors: 288-333 .464 - Hawk Harrelson (Resigned) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuban_sammiches Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 TWTW should be measured in "dadgummits." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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