cwsox Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I am still shocked, Gold Gloves awarded. and CLee did not win one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I am still shocked and CLee did not win one CLee improved in that area...... let's give him some credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I am still shocked, Gold Gloves awarded. and CLee did not win one You honestly thought he would win one? Maybe if they were for improvement.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Jacque Jones and Garret Anderson are two players off the top of my head that are better then Lee out there and Matsui is pretty damn good too. Lee made huge strides though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 CLee improved in that area...... let's give him some credit. actually, I do - I am a major CLee fan - if all of our players improved year to year as much as CLee does... and I didn't post originally in green because I am not sarcastic, because I hope that some day he does get one just to show what hard work can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 You honestly thought he would win one? no, not really, but the post was too obvious to pass up - first thing I thought of as I read the paper today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 no, not really, but the post was too obvious to pass up - first thing I thought of as I read the paper today Ahh. It looked sarcastic, but I wasn't sure. When's the last time a SOX other than Robin took home a Gold Glove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I am surprised Kong didn't win one. Oh wait, no I'm not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I am surprised Kong didn't win one. Oh wait, no I'm not. He didn't play in enough games to qualify, that's why he didn't win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I am surprised Kong didn't win one. Oh wait, no I'm not. He didn't play in enough games to qualify, that's why he didn't win. Speaking of stuff like that, do any of you remember when Palmeiro won it a few years ago whilst only appearing in TWENTY NINE games at first base? What a joke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I am surprised Kong didn't win one. Oh wait, no I'm not. He didn't play in enough games to qualify, that's why he didn't win. Speaking of stuff like that, do any of you remember when Palmeiro won it a few years ago whilst only appearing in TWENTY NINE games at first base? What a joke! That doesn't bother me, since Raffy refused to be traded to the Cubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 Ahh. It looked sarcastic, but I wasn't sure. When's the last time a SOX other than Robin took home a Gold Glove? Robin 91 92 93 96 98 Ozzie 90 Mike Squires 81 Jim Kat 74 75 Ken Berry 70 Luis Aparicio 58 59 60 61 62 68 70 Tommy Agee 66 Jim Landis 61 62 63 64 Minnie Minoso 57 60 Nellie 57 59 60 Sherm Lollar 57 58 59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Ahh. It looked sarcastic, but I wasn't sure. When's the last time a SOX other than Robin took home a Gold Glove? Robin 91 92 93 96 98 Ozzie 90 Mike Squires 81 Jim Kat 74 75 Ken Berry 70 Luis Aparicio 58 59 60 61 62 68 70 Tommy Agee 66 Jim Landis 61 62 63 64 Minnie Minoso 57 60 Nellie 57 59 60 Sherm Lollar 57 58 59 Thank you, great CW the Supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Jose Cruz Jr.? C'mon look at da playoffs ppl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Jose Cruz Jr.? C'mon look at da playoffs ppl. These are SUPPOSED to not be playoff included. Which is why the NBA hands out there awards before the playoffs end. I think they should do all the voting the day between regular season and day 1 of the playoffs. I think that whether the voters try to or not, the playoffs sway there voting thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 These are SUPPOSED to not be playoff included. Which is why the NBA hands out there awards before the playoffs end. I think they should do all the voting the day between regular season and day 1 of the playoffs. I think that whether the voters try to or not, the playoffs sway there voting thoughts. The votes are sent in and collected before the playoffs start. The playoffs do not sway the votes at all. They are announced after the playoffs so they will not detract from the focus of the playoffs and WS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I think Crede has a good shot to pick up some Gold Gloves if he keeps playing the way he does at 3rd. Maggs played pretty solid defense this year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I am still shocked, Gold Gloves awarded. and CLee did not win one If they gave a Gold Glove to each individual OF position, then CLee would have a chance. Not so if you include all OFers for 3 Gold Gloves. You have to include Hunter every year, and Ichiro is always good, and Cameron is also pretty damn good...that's why those 3 won gold gloves. However, as Jas mentioned, Jacque Jones is pretty damn good too(though I must not see enough of Anderson and Matsui....I know Matsui made like 8 or 10 errors in LF this year....that's goddamn terrible for an OFer....and Anderson has come off as a Magglio type to me....but again, that's probably me just not talking and taking first impressions and not watching enough). And a name not mentioned enough as a good defensive OFer is Luis Matos. That guy can use the leather very well. There are obviously a few I'm missing....but I do agree that hard work gets you places. CLee played some very, very goddamn good defense this year, and then we have to hope he improves again next year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Matsui is pretty damn good too. Yeah i saw his great throw to 3B agst the Red Sox in playoffs. That guy is way overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 i wonder if buerhle got any consideration. he's been a good fielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Really it is typical. Basically 3 CF's win the OF gold gloves every year. The only reason Suzuki is in RF is because of Cameron. I wish they would change it to giving the awards to the best RF, LF, and CF. That would be much more interesting to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 The votes are sent in and collected before the playoffs start. The playoffs do not sway the votes at all. They are announced after the playoffs so they will not detract from the focus of the playoffs and WS. Why does it take so long for them to announce winners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Why does it take so long for them to announce winners? I bet just so they can keep all attention on the playoffs. BTW, Cruz had two errors all season, was at top or near the top in chances, assists, and putouts. He is solid, just made a huge blunder. I say give the guy a chance here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 If they gave a Gold Glove to each individual OF position, then CLee would have a chance Even if one GG was reserved for LF and only LF, there at least 6 OF's in AL defensively better than Lee at his best: Anderson, Jones, Stewart, Crawford, Long and Matsui. Carlos Lee is average closing speed, average jumps and a sissy arm. Just because he doesn't let as many balls go between his legs as he used to before this season and has to make high-light reel dives on more or less routine plays, doesn't mean we can talk Gold Gloves all of the sudden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Even if one GG was reserved for LF and only LF, there at least 6 OF's in AL defensively better than Lee at his best: Anderson, Jones, Stewart, Crawford, Long and Matsui. Carlos Lee is average closing speed, average jumps and a sissy arm. Just because he doesn't let as many balls go between his legs as he used to before this season and has to make high-light reel dives on more or less routine plays, doesn't mean we can talk Gold Gloves all of the sudden. Terrance Long, that's classic. There is good reason to not designate an award for each OF position; LF is where the weaker armed and not as good defensively play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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