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4 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said:

Mike Cameron? 

“In my lifetime”, I think so, but Robert is up there.

But @oldsox wins with Jim Landis being the all-time answer.

Thankfully, no one mentioned a broken down Ken Griffey Jr. when Kenny acquired him.

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29 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Best I have seen in my life time, defensive and offensive.

Griffey Jr. first half of his career.

Bo Jackson.  Toolsiest.

Cards fans would say Edmonds.

Devon White.

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8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

“In my lifetime”, I think so, but Robert is up there.

But @oldsox wins with Jim Landis being the all-time answer.

Thankfully, no one mentioned a broken down Ken Griffey Jr. when Kenny acquired him.

Landis won four Gold Gloves with the Sox.

Mel Allen said he was as good a defensive center fielder as Mantle or Mays.

I agree.

But let's also give a nod to Chet Lemon and Lance Johnson. 

 

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10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Griffey Jr. first half of his career.

Bo Jackson.  Toolsiest.

Cards fans would say Edmonds.

Devon White.

Great list of guys who weren't White Sox or sucked when they did tho.

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38 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Mike Cameron gets a shout for sure.

He was solid on both ends for sure.

Chet Lemon remains my all time Sox favorite, but Luis has a good shot of having an awesome career as well. Sure hope they keep Luis vs. another tanking trade of an all time White Sox great over the next couple of years.

Top overall bWAR White Sox Starting CF Seasons (1901-2023)

Total bWAR Multiple Seasons:

  1. 25.3 Chet Lemon (6)
  2. 24.8 Johnny Mostil (7)
  3. 24.2 Fielder Jones (7)
  4. 20.9 Lance Johnson (6)
  5. 18.7 Jim Landis (7)
  6. 18.3 Happy Felsch (5)
  7. 12.5 Luis Robert Jr. (4)
  8. 11.0 Tommy Agee (2)
  9. 10.7 Mike Kreevich (5)
  10. 9.4 Aaron Rowand (2)
  11. 9.3 Adam Eaton (2)
  12. 8.2 Chris Singleton (3)
  13. 8.0 Thurman Tucker (4)

Single Season:

  1. 6.4 Johnny Mostil (1926)
  2. 6.4 Tommy Agee (1966)
  3. 6.1 Lance Johnson (1993)
  4. 5.9 Chet Lemon (1977)
  5. 5.8 Chet Lemon (1979)
  6. 5.7 Jim Landis (1959)
  7. 5.7 Aaron Rowand (2004)
  8. 5.6 Happy Felsch (1920)
  9. 5.2 Adam Eaton (2014)
  10. 5.0 Luis Robert Jr. (2023)
  11. 4.9 Larry Doby (1956)
  12. 4.9 Fielder Jones (1905)
  13. 4.9 Chet Lemon (1978)
  14. 4.8 Chris Singleton (1999)
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27 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Landis won four Gold Gloves with the Sox.

Mel Allen said he was as good a defensive center fielder as Mantle or Mays.

I agree.

But let's also give a nod to Chet Lemon and Lance Johnson. 

 

Landis won five consecutive Gold Gloves with the Sox — 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, and 1964.

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1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Landis won four Gold Gloves with the Sox.

Mel Allen said he was as good a defensive center fielder as Mantle or Mays.

I agree.

But let's also give a nod to Chet Lemon and Lance Johnson. 

 

Johnson didn't have a strong enough arm...unless you're going for defense in a Juan Pierre-like way.

Should be ALL aspects of defense.

 

Waiting for someone to mention Brian Anderson, haha.

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4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Waiting for someone to mention Brian Anderson, haha.

He was excellent in a limited stint in 06, but when Robert is fully healthy Robert has a step or two on him. Robert has a "Spectacular play" level that Anderson did not have.

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1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

He was excellent in a limited stint in 06, but when Robert is fully healthy Robert has a step or two on him. Robert has a "Spectacular play" level that Anderson did not have.

Robert needs to continue to work on plays approaching the walls, seems to hesitate at times though I can see him still she’ll shocked after contending with his injuries and avoiding Eloy collisions until they finally pulled the plug.

Thought 2020-2021 was Luis’ best year in terms of aggression and maximizing opportunities out in the field. May have stepped back a bit intentionally to prioritize maximizing games played, which makes sense both for the team and his long term career.

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