YASNY Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Link to article For what it's worth, the Mets are still thinking about Billy Koch. I hope they make us an offer we can't refuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I can just see KW giving him away now to the NYM, and him having a great year. I think that Konerko is a more viable option to clear payroll money than Koch is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick03 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Link to article For what it's worth, the Mets are still thinking about Billy Koch. I hope they make us an offer we can't refuse. I'm probably the only one on this board who thinks this way, but im willing to give koch another chance, unless the right offer comes along, i would definitely be willing to stick with koch...thats just me though...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 More news from New York. This time regarding Flash: New York Post (Scroll Down): "Considering the reps for free-agent relievers Tim Worrell and Tom Gordon haven't heard from the Yankees, it's likely the Bombers are going to go after righty free-agent reliever Shigetoshi Hasegawa and try to bring back lefties Gabe White and Felix Heredia." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 No, no, slick, I've been fighting the kill Billy Koch army since April of this year. I think that if he doesnt pick up a baseball until Spring Training, we may find ourselves with the Koch that we traded for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 No, no, slick, I've been fighting the kill Billy Koch army since April of this year. I think that if he doesnt pick up a baseball until Spring Training, we may find ourselves with the Koch that we traded for. That's a coin flip. We don't know if he was hurt, if he was will it heal or did he just lose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 6, 2003 Author Share Posted November 6, 2003 And then there is this: New York Post: "While Andy Pettitte's return tops their to-do list, the Yankees aren't waiting to see if the 21-game winner wants to stay. Thanks to organizational pitching guru Billy Connors' recommendation to George Steinbrenner last week, the Yankees' interest in free agent right-hander Bartolo Colon is increasing." I hate New York! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Roger Cedeno is another bust...I hope the Sox get something okay in return...or even just to clear salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I think dealing William would be a mistake. I'd like to see Big Willy get another shot to show Sox fans something. He surely didn't show us anything this past season. Trade Konerko or Mags and keep William. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 If you guys think that Koch's 100 mph fastball will magically reappear in ST, you are just fooling yourselves with wishful thinking. We got screwed, and that's it. If the Mets or anyone else volunteers to take Koch off our hands, it will include us doing the same for them, that is, taking one of their expensive problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 If you guys think that Koch's 100 mph fastball will magically reappear in ST, you are just fooling yourselves with wishful thinking. We got screwed, and that's it. If the Mets or anyone else volunteers to take Koch off our hands, it will include us doing the same for them, that is, taking one of their expensive problems. Then don't trade him if that's your thinking, we've only got him one more year then we are free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox61382 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I am certainly for trading Koch. The fact is that even before last year he wasn't a great closer. He may have won the Rolaid Relief Award, but ask Oakland(and Toronto fans before that) how many heartattacks he would give them or how many cases that they would go into the 9th with a 3 run lead and end up pulling out the game by 1 run with the bases loaded. This year Koch got burned and wasn't lucky in those situtations like past years. He is a 1 pitch pitcher who has lost that 1 pitch. There is a chance that he could regain it and revert back to his days as a decent(but not great) closer, but IMO 6+M/yr for him is still way too much. If a decent trade presents itself where the Sox can get rid of all his salary and pick up 1 or 2 decent players on the way, than management would be stupid to pass up such a deal. The bad feeling that I get however, is that Koch might be traded to the Mets and the Sox will get Cedeno(maybe something else) in return. That would NOT be an ideal trade, and if that is the purposal that the Mets suggest then I say keep Koch. With Thomas, Loaiza, and Valentin getting their options picked up and the Sox needing to add a solid starting pitcher they need to move payroll and Koch is as good a choice as any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Link to article For what it's worth, the Mets are still thinking about Billy Koch. I hope they make us an offer we can't refuse. I'm probably the only one on this board who thinks this way, but im willing to give koch another chance, unless the right offer comes along, i would definitely be willing to stick with koch...thats just me though...... No, you just don't come around enough. There are alot of people who feel Koch will return to form next season. What about a bigger deal, involving both the Mets' and Sox lumbering big men. I could live with a deal consisting of Cedeno, Floyd, a quality prospect, and cash for Konerko, Koch, a low-level prospect. Cedeno could come off the bench, Floyd could DH and play a little LF, and both, I do believe, can bat from the left side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochpuppy Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Wow, been here just over a week? You're a quick learner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 If you guys think that Koch's 100 mph fastball will magically reappear in ST, you are just fooling yourselves with wishful thinking. We got screwed, and that's it. If the Mets or anyone else volunteers to take Koch off our hands, it will include us doing the same for them, that is, taking one of their expensive problems. Couldn't have said it better myself. It's like you read my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I would trade Konerko before I trade Koch too I would actually think about bringing in Palmero to replace Konerko, if we can trade Konerko to dodgers or someone like that Palmero would provide us with a lefty bat (which we need) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 If we trade Koch then I hope we try and sign Keith Foulke. The team would have to eat crow, but then again we want a winner in Soxdom and not another year of what might have been. We would still have Cotts to show for the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 If we trade Koch then I hope we try and sign Keith Foulke. The team would have to eat crow, but then again we want a winner in Soxdom and not another year of what might have been. We would still have Cotts to show for the trade. Foulke has proven to Sox fans, as well as A's fans, that he can't close big games. I for one don't want to see Foulke back in a Sox uniform. If the Sox don't end up keeping Koch, I'm sure that since Ozzie is buddy buddy with Uggy Urbina we might be able to bring him here for a reduced price. Ideally, I'd like to keep Koch, because I think he's going to rebound this year. Then again, no one's gonna know until ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 If we trade Koch then I hope we try and sign Keith Foulke. Won't happen as long as KW is GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I would trade Konerko before I trade Koch too I would actually think about bringing in Palmero to replace Konerko, if we can trade Konerko to dodgers or someone like that Palmero would provide us with a lefty bat (which we need) Would you think about how we are going to pay him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 If we trade Koch then I hope we try and sign Keith Foulke. The team would have to eat crow, but then again we want a winner in Soxdom and not another year of what might have been. We would still have Cotts to show for the trade. Not to mention Daylon Holt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Heard this from a little birdie..... Koch is not high on the Mets list at the time being, despite the obvious Howe/Peterson ties. Gordon would be more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Billy Botch or William Koch? Of all the pitchers on the staff, Koch has the highest upside. At his best, he's better than anyone we have. Problem is Billy Botch is a solid AA relief pitcher. If we have most of our roster back, we're in the thick of the race again and need reliability and if we can trade for a 25 man roster type of guy, I'd move him. If we are in some between year thing, keep him and hope he comes around to his old form and dump him at the trade deadline to a contender who's desperate and willing to overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Link to article For what it's worth, the Mets are still thinking about Billy Koch. I hope they make us an offer we can't refuse. I'm probably the only one on this board who thinks this way, but im willing to give koch another chance, unless the right offer comes along, i would definitely be willing to stick with koch...thats just me though...... My thinking is this. I'd rather spend the money on someone like Latroy Hawkins then Billy Koch. Hawkins is coming off a few really good seasons, has great stuff and would cost a bit less. With Koch you just don't know and that kind of drop in velocity scares the hell out of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 I would trade Konerko before I trade Koch too I would actually think about bringing in Palmero to replace Konerko, if we can trade Konerko to dodgers or someone like that Palmero would provide us with a lefty bat (which we need) Would you think about how we are going to pay him? Well if he was willing to just play for a winner and come in rather cheap, I'd say it would be a great move. Don't know how willing he'd be to take a big paycut, but it would be worth Kenny making the phone call, imo. Thats if he can unload Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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