chitownsportsfan Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 It's important to know and identify the Bust Bros. Here is a helpful guide: Bash Bros: Bust Bros: 2 3 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I remember when a couple of posters used to laugh at any post I made critical of either of these two back in the days when they were touted as major pieces of the "young championship core" LOL. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 1 minute ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: I remember when a couple of posters used to laugh at any post I made critical of either of these two back in the days when they were touted as major pieces of the "young championship core" LOL. Time makes fools of us all, especially us Sox fans. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 38 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: It's important to know and identify the Bust Bros. Here is a helpful guide: Bash Bros: Bust Bros: Losers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 23 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Losers. Yep, multi-millionaires that should be getting paid the league minimum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 19 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Yep, multi-millionaires that should be getting paid the league minimum. Blame Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I wouldnt be surprised if Moncada only has a few more seasons left in him, he walks around like he was just in a car wreck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 These dudes will never be remembered. Just collecting paychecks. I fully expect Moncada to have an awesome season if he feels he needs another $100M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Again, I'm quoting Ryan McGuffey on Soxtalk: "Yoan Moncada is the Abe Lincoln on the Mount Rushmore of White Sox busts." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I just am glad I don't the OPs search history to finally that pic of Yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Kopech should be added btw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Cmon Man. Canseco never had Covid. Much easier back then 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Man, we are hitting the negativity hard and early. Not that it’s unwarranted. Just shows how jaded and beaten down this fanbase is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 42 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said: Kopech should be added btw Why stop there? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Illinois got taught today. Got their asses handed to them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 50 minutes ago, tray said: Illinois got taught today. Got their asses handed to them. Not sure why this got into the thread but let me just say: f*** ILLINOIS! Other than the 30-0 run it was a close game. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 What’s crazy is that Yoan put up a 5.5 fWAR season in 2019. While he got a little lucky with the bat that year, his quality of contact was insane with his average exit velocity sitting in the 98th percentile. Combine that with plus plus defense and above average base-running and we had a star on our hands. As just a 24 year old, there was reason to believe Yoan could offset the luck regression with better swing decisions and maintain that level of production moving forward. Unfortunately after signing his extension and after getting COVID in 2020, he just couldn’t replicate that performance, partially due to health reasons and partially what I attribute to drive. It also didn’t help that the dude constantly mixed up his offensive approaches, flexing between extreme patience and the balanced aggressiveness he demonstrated in 2019. Despite that, he did post a 4 fWAR season in 2021 on the heels of a career best 13.6% walk rate. Yoan will forever be considered a bust in White Sox history, but that will always be due to not achieving his vast ceiling rather than being a complete flop like so many Sox prospects before him. I truly believed that Moncada & Robert would regularly put up a combined 10 fWAR seasons and it’s sad we’ll never get that level of production even once. Such a waste of physical talent, but alas that’s the 2022 & 2023 White Sox in a nutshell and Yoan is certainly the poster boy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 https://soxmachine.com/2024/03/eloy-jimenez-white-sox-plate-discipline/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: What’s crazy is that Yoan put up a 5.5 fWAR season in 2019. While he got a little lucky with the bat that year, his quality of contact was insane with his average exit velocity sitting in the 98th percentile. Combine that with plus plus defense and above average base-running and we had a star on our hands. As just a 24 year old, there was reason to believe Yoan could offset the luck regression with better swing decisions and maintain that level of production moving forward. Unfortunately after signing his extension and after getting COVID in 2020, he just couldn’t replicate that performance, partially due to health reasons and partially what I attribute to drive. It also didn’t help that the dude constantly mixed up his offensive approaches, flexing between extreme patience and the balanced aggressiveness he demonstrated in 2019. Despite that, he did post a 4 fWAR season in 2021 on the heels of a career best 13.6% walk rate. Yoan will forever be considered a bust in White Sox history, but that will always be due to not achieving his vast ceiling rather than being a complete flop like so many Sox prospects before him. I truly believed that Moncada & Robert would regularly put up a combined 10 fWAR seasons and it’s sad we’ll never get that level of production even once. Such a waste of physical talent, but alas that’s the 2022 & 2023 White Sox in a nutshell and Yoan is certainly the poster boy. I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but I believe those players started declining when the White Sox got rid of Rick Renteria and replaced him with Tony La Russa. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, chetkincaid said: I don’t want to beat a dead horse, but I believe those players started declining when the White Sox got rid of Rick Renteria and replaced him with Tony La Russa. Renteria drove me nuts with his in-game decision making, but the dude had his guys playing hard most nights. And it seems like several of the guys didn’t do well with Zombie LaRussa’s complete lack of clubhouse rules & oversight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WhiteSox2023 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 46 minutes ago, DirtySox said: What an utter loser. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: What an utter loser. Yes he is, just DFA his useless ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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baseball_gal_aly Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 9 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: What’s crazy is that Yoan put up a 5.5 fWAR season in 2019. While he got a little lucky with the bat that year, his quality of contact was insane with his average exit velocity sitting in the 98th percentile. Combine that with plus plus defense and above average base-running and we had a star on our hands. As just a 24 year old, there was reason to believe Yoan could offset the luck regression with better swing decisions and maintain that level of production moving forward. Unfortunately after signing his extension and after getting COVID in 2020, he just couldn’t replicate that performance, partially due to health reasons and partially what I attribute to drive. It also didn’t help that the dude constantly mixed up his offensive approaches, flexing between extreme patience and the balanced aggressiveness he demonstrated in 2019. Despite that, he did post a 4 fWAR season in 2021 on the heels of a career best 13.6% walk rate. Yoan will forever be considered a bust in White Sox history, but that will always be due to not achieving his vast ceiling rather than being a complete flop like so many Sox prospects before him. I truly believed that Moncada & Robert would regularly put up a combined 10 fWAR seasons and it’s sad we’ll never get that level of production even once. Such a waste of physical talent, but alas that’s the 2022 & 2023 White Sox in a nutshell and Yoan is certainly the poster boy. I agree with this take, Moncada is a bust not because he isn't an MLB player or a bad one, but because he was supposed to be peak Jose Ramirez and only got over 4 WAR twice. Also injuries and covid sapped him of his athleticism. Edited March 31 by baseball_gal_aly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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