Sleepy Harold Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 Guessing this was the move to make room for Clevinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 8 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Guessing this was the move to make room for Clevinger The executive that oversaw Popeye's development must be furious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 30 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Guessing this was the move to make room for Clevinger He won't make it through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 33 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Guessing this was the move to make room for Clevinger This deal gets dumber and dumber. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: He won't make it through. Gavin Sheets endures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 What was the deal with Jose? Was he injured or were there off the field personal issues occurring? He was optioned to AAA a month ago and had yet to appear in a AAA game this season. Seems like there’s more to this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 36 minutes ago, Quin said: The executive that oversaw Popeye's development must be furious I'm confused. I thought Getz was only responsible for the prospects who did poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 7 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: What was the deal with Jose? Was he injured or were there off the field personal issues occurring? He was optioned to AAA a month ago and had yet to appear in a AAA game this season. Seems like there’s more to this story. Supposedly away attending to a family matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 9 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: What was the deal with Jose? Was he injured or were there off the field personal issues occurring? He was optioned to AAA a month ago and had yet to appear in a AAA game this season. Seems like there’s more to this story. Dealing with a family issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 13 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I'm confused. I thought Getz was only responsible for the prospects who did poorly. Development was a problem before he came to the White Sox, and didn't change for the better while he was working that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 15 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Supposedly away attending to a family matter. Is that code for something else though? Putting two and two together kind of feels like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 10 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Development was a problem before he came to the White Sox, and didn't change for the better while he was working that area. It actually did. Guys who weren't rushed to be utility players or bullpen arms have been developed into actual prospects. Colson Montgomery wasn't drafted as a top of his class shortstop. His quick ascension on national lists is a development win. So is Schultz, Ramos, Cannon, and Mena. Also, the appearance of home grown bullpen arms and utility infielders is also an important job of development. Everybody rolls their eyes at the Seby Zavalas, Zach Remillards, Jimmy Lamberts, Tanner Banks, But those are all cheap players to fill supporting roles on the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said: It actually did. Guys who weren't rushed to be utility players or bullpen arms have been developed into actual prospects. Colson Montgomery wasn't drafted as a top of his class shortstop. His quick ascension on national lists is a development win. So is Schultz, Ramos, Cannon, and Mena. Also, the appearance of home grown bullpen arms and utility infielders is also an important job of development. Everybody rolls their eyes at the Seby Zavalas, Zach Remillards, Jimmy Lamberts, Tanner Banks, But those are all cheap players to fill supporting roles on the club. Montgomery is good but he was a pretty high pick. We will see on the others, and he got rid of Mena. If you really want to put a feather in his cap for the last 4 guys, you either are Chris Getz or close to him. THEY ALL SUCK. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 16 minutes ago, WestEddy said: It actually did. Guys who weren't rushed to be utility players or bullpen arms have been developed into actual prospects. Colson Montgomery wasn't drafted as a top of his class shortstop. His quick ascension on national lists is a development win. So is Schultz, Ramos, Cannon, and Mena. Also, the appearance of home grown bullpen arms and utility infielders is also an important job of development. Everybody rolls their eyes at the Seby Zavalas, Zach Remillards, Jimmy Lamberts, Tanner Banks, But those are all cheap players to fill supporting roles on the club. “STRETCH!!!” 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Why the f*** would you cut any prospect with a pulse rather than just DFA Shields or one of the billion relievers? Doesn't make any sense bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Maybe he gets traded for something small. Doubt he makes it through waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On Soxtalk, Mena is somehow simultaneously a future stud who will haunt us and also an example of the organization's failures to develop talent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 10 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Montgomery is good but he was a pretty high pick. We will see on the others, and he got rid of Mena. If you really want to put a feather in his cap for the last 4 guys, you either are Chris Getz or close to him. THEY ALL SUCK. Which proves my point. Getz is responsible for the failures, but not the successes. A guy like Seby Zavala went from a college bat who incidentally caught, to a defense-first back-up pro catcher. His defense was developed in our system. Tanner Banks sucks? Dude, I get that there's a bunch of people here who hate Reinsdorf, and therefore, everything about this organization is bad, wrong, catastrophic. And trading Mena doesn't erase his development. I have nothing to do with Chris Getz. It is possible for people outside of the echo chamber to look at this team objectively, and see some positives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: Why the f*** would you cut any prospect with a pulse rather than just DFA Shields or one of the billion relievers? Doesn't make any sense bro. Great question. It also ironically shows that Getz didn’t have faith in one of his own guys, his 17th ranked prospect. Leone, Shaw? These are guys that are lucky to have jobs and they would still be out there to re-sign at a later date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: On Soxtalk, Mena is somehow simultaneously a future stud who will haunt us and also an example of the organization's failures to develop talent. It’s not about just one guy. The problem is that there isn’t enough good prospects to point to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 2 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Which proves my point. Getz is responsible for the failures, but not the successes. A guy like Seby Zavala went from a college bat who incidentally caught, to a defense-first back-up pro catcher. His defense was developed in our system. Tanner Banks sucks? Dude, I get that there's a bunch of people here who hate Reinsdorf, and therefore, everything about this organization is bad, wrong, catastrophic. And trading Mena doesn't erase his development. I have nothing to do with Chris Getz. It is possible for people outside of the echo chamber to look at this team objectively, and see some positives. I would like to see some guy not drafted in the first round, become a player who, if you team was actually good, you would expect to help win games. Where are these guys? You give the guy credit for Mena, yet he traded him before he ever played an MLB game. Nothing is ever on him. He got hired because he will bow down to JR. He owes him. He wouldn't be a GM for any other MLB team. Edited April 4 by Dick Allen 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: On Soxtalk, Mena is somehow simultaneously a future stud who will haunt us and also an example of the organization's failures to develop talent. No, Mena is one of the few that makes us all go "what the f***, it was working? And you trade him for a 26-year-old platoon bat?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Why the f*** would you cut any prospect with a pulse rather than just DFA Shields or one of the billion relievers? Doesn't make any sense bro. Do you mean Sheets? There are 3 AAA relievers on the 40-man. The only other fat I could see getting trimmed, at this point, is Jared Schuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 6 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Why the f*** would you cut any prospect with a pulse rather than just DFA Shields or one of the billion relievers? Doesn't make any sense bro. Exactly why I think there’s more to the story here. Wonder if it will come out eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Which proves my point. Getz is responsible for the failures, but not the successes. A guy like Seby Zavala went from a college bat who incidentally caught, to a defense-first back-up pro catcher. His defense was developed in our system. Tanner Banks sucks? Dude, I get that there's a bunch of people here who hate Reinsdorf, and therefore, everything about this organization is bad, wrong, catastrophic. And trading Mena doesn't erase his development. I have nothing to do with Chris Getz. It is possible for people outside of the echo chamber to look at this team objectively, and see some positives. I made a long list of success and failures and you clammed up faster than Hawk when things went south in his final years as a broadcaster. Yeah, he gets the good and bad. It's just the fact that there's a lot more bad. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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