WhiteSox2023 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 3 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Dude, every single baseball player doesn't need to be A-Rod in his prime. Sheets won't get starter at-bats, but if he puts up 1.5-2 bWAR this season, that's great. Daniel Vogelbach is a comparison, and we'll never sniff the money he's made hitting a home run every now and then. That aside, Sheets is probably a way better overall hitter and athlete than Vogelbach ever dreamed of being. I’ll take that as a ban bet by the end of the season. We can even put it into our signatures to hold us to it. Interested? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’ll take that as a ban bet by the end of the season. We can even put it into our signatures to hold us to it. Interested? I don't bet. I'm not sure why I would commit to some outcome based on a "if this guy does this, then..." statement. Do you bet a lot? I'm guessing you do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I don't bet. I'm not sure why I would commit to some outcome based on a "if this guy does this, then..." statement. Do you bet a lot? I'm guessing you do. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’ll take that as a ban bet by the end of the season. We can even put it into our signatures to hold us to it. Interested? It's weird that nobody's taking "ban bets" on the "Oh noes!! The White Sox won't win 30 games." Or even the "historically bad" statements. Y'all engage in hyperbole every single day. Please show the tickets where you put up your house for the Sox to not exceed 42 wins. That would give any of the braying idiots any credibility. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: ? Uh, yes, I'm "chicken" to make any binding bet with a guy whose goalposts are always moving, and doesn't even know the definition of words. Why don't you post your casino bet ticket at the value of your house that the Sox won't cover the over on 42 wins? You love to pretend you're the baseball savant. go bet the money, and post a copy of your ticket. Otherwise, STFU. i will not be joining you, as I'm not a moron, and don't sports bet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 @WestEddy @WhiteSox2023 Get a room boys. Maybe even a suite. Brooks Boyer just emailed me they are 40% off. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, DoUEvenShift said: @WestEddy @WhiteSox2023 Get a room boys. Maybe even a suite. Brooks Boyer just emailed me they are 40% off. Can we share a Campfire Milkshake from that suite? Two straws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Gavin Sheets sucks, but as its already been said hes not blocking anyone or preventing anything so let him ride his hot streak and then we can all complain about how much run hes getting as the #3 hitter based off a week long streak at the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Can’t really complain about him hitting 3rd or 4th when there’s literally no one else. The problem will be what to do when Eloy comes back. Wouldn’t mind Vaughn getting sent down for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 9 hours ago, Quin said: Big difference is that with Robert and Moncada gone, there's a non-zero chance he's the All-Star rep if he keeps this up for even a month. I thought about this yesterday. It will probably be Crochet (unless he gets injured) or whoever best reliever is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 8 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: The Sox have stuck with Sheets for the past two seasons as a part-time starter playing out of position to the tune of a sub-.700 OPS, even though he is a 1B by trade yet hits like a middle infielder. The Sox are going to ride his current hot streak until it ends and then ride him for another 250 at bats into the deep freeze of his upcoming and inevitable cold streak. Gavin Sheets is in this position because everyone one in front of him is hurt and/or awful right now. He keeps getting chances not because they see him as special, but by attrition because he can run to 1B without getting hurt. If someone better gets developed, they will take the job. Sheets was one of the last guys on this roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 9 hours ago, Greg Hibbard said: I am not panicking about anything, that seems a strange way to put this. How could anyone panic about anything on this team? We have reached the literal bottom of our fandom. I’m not afraid of blocking anyone on the current team. The first baseman of the future should be a quality proven MLB FA or a high draft pick. The point is that I don’t want some Jose Valentin type of situation where a replacement level player becomes this evergreen mainstay “heart of the team” for the next four seasons while scuffling to Dan Pasqua type numbers because he has a hot first half in one year. That’s a very White Sox thing to do, and I think you know it. An even more White Sox thing would be Gavin Sheets and Andrew Vaughn becoming some sort of “Veets” 1B platoon that maxes out at a combined 28 HR and .805 OPS. I’m saying Sheets hot streak - whatever it ends up being - can’t be for real. He will come back to earth for many reasons. Having a replacement level 1B might be passable if we had any power prospects at any position. In the White Sox’ case, we need a prototypical slugger on a team that struggles to score runs. Sheets ain’t and won’t ever be enough. Random thoughts... Gavin Sheets WAS a high draft pick, and Jose Valentin was decidedly better than replacement level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 8 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’ll take that as a ban bet by the end of the season. We can even put it into our signatures to hold us to it. Interested? 8 hours ago, WestEddy said: I don't bet. I'm not sure why I would commit to some outcome based on a "if this guy does this, then..." statement. Do you bet a lot? I'm guessing you do. 8 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: ? 8 hours ago, WestEddy said: It's weird that nobody's taking "ban bets" on the "Oh noes!! The White Sox won't win 30 games." Or even the "historically bad" statements. Y'all engage in hyperbole every single day. Please show the tickets where you put up your house for the Sox to not exceed 42 wins. That would give any of the braying idiots any credibility. Not to keep this argument going but I offered @WhiteSox2023 a ban bet in another thread when he said they'd lose 120 games (I offered him 118 I think?) and he changed the subject immediately after accusing me of being related to Jerry Reinsdorf. I'll still take that bet.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 4 minutes ago, KipWellsFan said: Random thoughts... Gavin Sheets WAS a high draft pick, and Jose Valentin was decidedly better than replacement level. Lol.... Jose Valentin would probably be our best player by a wide margin with Robert out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 31 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Wouldn’t mind Vaughn getting sent down for a while. This might make you feel good to say, but he's one of the best we got. *gulps* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, KipWellsFan said: This might make you feel good to say, but he's one of the best we got. *gulps* I just meant when Eloy comes back and takes the DH spot back from Sheets. Don’t want him back in the OF (though I guess it doesn’t really matter at this point). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 26 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: Not to keep this argument going but I offered @WhiteSox2023 a ban bet in another thread when he said they'd lose 120 games (I offered him 118 I think?) and he changed the subject immediately after accusing me of being related to Jerry Reinsdorf. I'll still take that bet.... Maybe there is a reason he is afraid of a "ban" bet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 40 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I just meant when Eloy comes back and takes the DH spot back from Sheets. Don’t want him back in the OF (though I guess it doesn’t really matter at this point). Is this where we start to throw random corner infielder / DH names at the 2B position for some reason? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 “Too left handed” is a new one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 48 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I just meant when Eloy comes back and takes the DH spot back from Sheets. Don’t want him back in the OF (though I guess it doesn’t really matter at this point). Sheets should not be in the outfield, nor should Vaughn, nor should Eloy. We still have the problem of too many 1st baseman/DH's. When Eloy comes back, if Sheets is still hitting like he is, it's my opinion that Vaughn should either be benched or sent to AAA to receive the playing time. If Sheets' bat is actually something and this past week is not a fluke, he should be the primary at 1B. He's left handed obviously and taller, which gives an edge over at first base, and the lineup needs left-handed power especially if Eloy is in it (not that he would stay in the lineup very long anyway until his next injury). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 3 hours ago, T R U said: Gavin Sheets sucks, but as its already been said hes not blocking anyone or preventing anything so let him ride his hot streak and then we can all complain about how much run hes getting as the #3 hitter based off a week long streak at the start of the season. I'm good with playing him for 400 PAs this season. I just don't want the Sox to make him into a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, Nardiwashere said: Not to keep this argument going but I offered @WhiteSox2023 a ban bet in another thread when he said they'd lose 120 games (I offered him 118 I think?) and he changed the subject immediately after accusing me of being related to Jerry Reinsdorf. I'll still take that bet.... That’s because my prediction at the time was 62 wins. Why would I accept a bet I think I would lose? I now think they could lose a few more but your offer is ridiculous because it is a historically bad record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 11 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: So you aren't even worried about Gavin Sheets is going to block someone now, you are worried about him blocking someone years down the road who we haven't even acquired yet? All because he has had a decent start over 12 games? Yeah that is the definition of unnecessary panic. This is all my fault. My son, who plays First base, graduates HS in 2026. If we would have had him earlier, he may have been MLB ready sooner. I'm sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Just now, RibbieRubarb said: This is all my fault. My son, who plays First base, graduates HS in 2026. If we would have had him earlier, he may have been MLB ready sooner. I'm sorry. I mean I didn't want to blast you on the internet, but here we are so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 12 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’ll take that as a ban bet by the end of the season. We can even put it into our signatures to hold us to it. Interested? I still don't understand what you're trying to bet on, here. You asked me to define a moderately productive season for Sheets, and I answered that if he put up 1.5-2 WAR, I would consider that moderately productive. There's nothing to bet on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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