Rey21 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 On 7/3/2024 at 9:59 PM, Timmy U said: James Fox speculates that they would build a package around Connor Norby. Meh. He’s R/R, is not really a 2b and his strikeouts scare me. He has no chance of breaking into their lineup. Maybe as the weak side of a corner outfield platoon with either Cowser or Kjerstad? If that is the return, I would hold onto Garrett at least until the offseason. Expand Think he meant that as satire because I’m sure Mike Elias isn’t offering Mayo/Basallo because he loves prospect hugging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 On 7/3/2024 at 10:13 PM, Rey21 said: Think he meant that as satire because I’m sure Mike Elias isn’t offering Mayo/Basallo because he loves prospect hugging Expand Yeah I read it as they won’t do what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 On 7/3/2024 at 10:15 PM, PaleAleSox said: Yeah I read it as they won’t do what it takes. Expand Yep. That's explicitly what James posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 On 7/3/2024 at 7:20 PM, DirtySox said: Expand Sounds like there was more to this before the video ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 3, 2024 Share Posted July 3, 2024 On 7/3/2024 at 9:59 PM, Timmy U said: James Fox speculates that they would build a package around Connor Norby. Meh. He’s R/R, is not really a 2b and his strikeouts scare me. He has no chance of breaking into their lineup. Maybe as the weak side of a corner outfield platoon with either Cowser or Kjerstad? If that is the return, I would hold onto Garrett at least until the offseason. Expand I was joking On 7/3/2024 at 10:13 PM, Rey21 said: Think he meant that as satire because I’m sure Mike Elias isn’t offering Mayo/Basallo because he loves prospect hugging Expand Exactly this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 Seattle, Baltimore, Los Angeles, Philly, Milwaukee, San Diego, etc… can you please pony the f*** up? I can’t take another 28 days of boredom. Let’s break the levy damn it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 I don't think it will take some incredible "haul" to trade for Robert. They're very motivated to move him before he gets hurt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 3:03 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said: I don't think it will take some incredible "haul" to trade for Robert. They're very motivated to move him before he gets hurt again. Expand Ugh.... It better damn well be a haul 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 (edited) On 7/4/2024 at 3:03 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said: I don't think it will take some incredible "haul" to trade for Robert. They're very motivated to move him before he gets hurt again. Expand Well if it won't require a haul, it shouldn't be hard to move him at all. If it requires a haul, it looks like Seattle or bust to me. But I'm really suspicious of any willingness to sell low, given Pedro as manager; he was griping about him last season for no real reason (not running out a ground ball, as I recall); Pedro and his stupid "clubhouse" garbage. Plus, the Sox need an influx of real talent. And only Robert and Crochet can bring that. it's worth the risk to wait out for a haul. At least wait until Seattle checks in; they should be nearing the desperation point soon. Edited July 4, 2024 by GreenSox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 3:13 AM, GreenSox said: it's worth the risk to wait out for a haul. Expand Even if we have to wait until the offseason or next year. I’d rather risk him turning it around and staying healthy for a haul compared to selling low to play it safe with a small return coming back. f*** it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 2:28 AM, Chicago White Sox said: ? Expand Bye bye Fedde? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 3:29 AM, hi8is said: Bye bye Fedde? ? Expand That would be killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 3:39 AM, southsider2k5 said: That would be killer. Expand Which is why it probably ain’t happening but I’d say it would be a good trade for both teams. Everyone and their grandma knows the dodgers need starting pitching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 3:03 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said: I don't think it will take some incredible "haul" to trade for Robert. They're very motivated to move him before he gets hurt again. Expand Can you provide us with what you think it would cost? Using Mariners as an example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 4:00 AM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Can you provide us with what you think it would cost? Using Mariners as an example Expand Ken Griffey Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 4:07 AM, hi8is said: Ken Griffey Jr. Expand Dude is like 60 now, so Getz is probably interested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 3:03 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said: I don't think it will take some incredible "haul" to trade for Robert. They're very motivated to move him before he gets hurt again. Expand Fucking joke of an organization 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 4:08 AM, southsider2k5 said: Dude is like 60 now, so Getz is probably interested. Expand Thats the Kenny Williams Special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 3:29 AM, hi8is said: Bye bye Fedde? ? Expand Well, the Dodgers could always use yet another stud in Robert, lol. Almost getting to be unfair to the rest of the NL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 4:46 AM, 2Deep said: Fucking joke of an organization Expand More concerned about his "reasonably valued" upcoming contract years being off the books than the talent return. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 (edited) Stating the obvious but trading your studs for other teams prospects points out how important drafting and developing players is. The Sox should go all in on being a small market team and follow Cleveland, Milwaukee, and Tampa Bay lead. In the words of Denny Green , " They are who we thought they were" ...whatever that means Edited July 4, 2024 by Falstaff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 6:29 AM, caulfield12 said: More concerned about his "reasonably valued" upcoming contract years being off the books than the talent return. Idiots. Expand How much surplus value is there really if he’s making ~$18M per after this season? He’s proven himself as, what, a ~3 WAR player on avg per season? So maybe there’s ~3-4 WAR in surplus value remaining on his contract? Personally, I don’t think that’s worth a king’s ransom. To me, Crochet has more trade value than Robert despite having one year less of control remaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 4:57 AM, hi8is said: Thats the Kenny Williams Special. Expand Not to mention this would be his second time acquiring said old dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 4, 2024 Share Posted July 4, 2024 On 7/4/2024 at 11:41 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: How much surplus value is there really if he’s making ~$18M per after this season? He’s proven himself as, what, a ~3 WAR player on avg per season? So maybe there’s ~3-4 WAR in surplus value remaining on his contract? Personally, I don’t think that’s worth a king’s ransom. To me, Crochet has more trade value than Robert despite having one year less of control remaining. Expand You’re undervaluing him greatly. He was a 5 win player last year and his wRC+ is nearly identical now. His hip injury has definitely impacted his defense some this year and he clearly isn’t giving his all given how god awful this team is. IMO, he’s easily a 5 win player if healthy and even if you want to discount his value some for that factor, you need to account for the fact the value of a win isn’t linear and guys capable of putting 5+ win seasons are worth substantially more than the standard $9/WAR assumption most people use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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