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Bob Sacamano Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Pushing for that Montgomery/Gonzalez MI by end of next year I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Hmm. ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 He's gonna get 4 months at AA. If he holds his own, the Sox will be in great shape on the infield for 10 years. Of course, reality can be a kick in the slats sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 What happens to Baldwin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 46 minutes ago, oldsox said: What happens to Baldwin? I bet they rotate between short and second and Baldwin gets reps at 3b. He can play 7 positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, oldsox said: What happens to Baldwin? He (Baldwin) is going to have to prove every stop along the way that he's more than a utility player... Way too early IMO to push Gonzalez up to AA. Zero harm in letting him get 100% comfortable in High A, letting him get that feeling he's something close to dominant at that level before challenging him again. Going to be shocked if he can post anything higher than a 650-675 OPS for the remainder of the season, but the White Sox love their aggressive promotions. Edited May 21 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: He (Baldwin) is going to have to prove every stop along the way that he's more than a utility player... Fair enough. But Baldwin does lead the Southern League in batting, and OBP. He's third in OPS. And he has a very nice 19/25 bb/K ratio. There's nothing to indicate he's going to struggle as he goes up a level. Compare that to Elko and Veras whose bb/K ratios are 5/45 and 4/45 respectively. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 3 hours ago, Timmy U said: Fair enough. But Baldwin does lead the Southern League in batting, and OBP. He's third in OPS. And he has a very nice 19/25 bb/K ratio. There's nothing to indicate he's going to struggle as he goes up a level. Compare that to Elko and Veras whose bb/K ratios are 5/45 and 4/45 respectively. Whenever you have a player who comes from a non P5 conference, one season's worth of success when you're around a 790 OPS college hitter is not exactly going to move him up to a Top 10-15 prospect when you don't have a set "plus" defensive position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Pitching is thin at most colleges - that "P5" stuff doesn't mean much in baseball (and to the extent that it does, it's P4 in baseball). They play good competition at Wilmington. I don't know whether he plays multiple positions because he can or because he plays no position well. But apparently he can hit, and there's certainly room for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Overall the Gonzalez experience in Double A hasn’t gone to well, is it to early to say he’s a “non-prospect” at this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, Johno said: Overall the Gonzalez experience in Double A hasn’t gone to well, is it to early to say he’s a “non-prospect” at this time? Realistically, he'll probably get a cup of coffee as backup MI at some point just based on draft status. What an atrocious pick, but I can't really say I'm all that surprised with their decisions anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 3 hours ago, Johno said: Overall the Gonzalez experience in Double A hasn’t gone to well, is it to early to say he’s a “non-prospect” at this time? He's only 22 and still showing an impressive k:bb ratio at an advanced level. It's still too early to call it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 12 hours ago, Johno said: Overall the Gonzalez experience in Double A hasn’t gone to well, is it to early to say he’s a “non-prospect” at this time? Seems a little early. Gotta give him next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Probably time for another swing change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 14 hours ago, Johno said: Overall the Gonzalez experience in Double A hasn’t gone to well, is it to early to say he’s a “non-prospect” at this time? 10 hours ago, TaylorStSox said: He's only 22 and still showing an impressive k:bb ratio at an advanced level. It's still too early to call it. 1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said: Seems a little early. Gotta give him next year. Being 22, give him 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 I have complete faith in the Sox draft and destruction process. It is amazing how many consensus first round hitter picks this franchise has buried. Literally haven't had one over perform since Tim Anderson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted Sunday at 12:48 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:48 PM (edited) On 9/20/2024 at 10:24 PM, southsider2k5 said: I have complete faith in the Sox draft and destruction process. It is amazing how many consensus first round hitter picks this franchise has buried. Literally haven't had one over perform since Tim Anderson. Burger has settled in as something probably closing in on better than average value for his slot in the first round...although he did that almost in spite of the Sox and not because of them. If you look at one of those Vaughn/Madrigal drafts though...pretty sure Nick who was the selection right after, it's amazing how the Philly got the best out of Bohm when his career started out so slowly at the big league level. Or just how everyone fell asleep on a little Oregon State LF who has almost had the impact of Rutschman in two of the last three years from way back in the draft. Edited Sunday at 12:50 PM by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted Monday at 01:33 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:33 AM (edited) 3 hits today. He may be a bust, but not yet. Try to remember some guys don't get it as soon as others. The best example of this in my lifetime was Mike Schmidt. Didn't reach the majors until 23. His rookie year he hit .196 with a .697 OPS. Then he put up the best 14 year run of any player in the last 50 years. The only exception is HGH boy Barry Bonds. The funny thing is Bonds was the same way. He had two solid years at 22-23 and then started winning MVP's. Would have been a first ballot HOFer without the juice, but he got mad at cheaters Sammy Sosa And Mark McGuire getting all the headlines. Edited Monday at 01:57 AM by zisk add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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