T R U Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 4 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: I agree. I don't trade Crochet unless someone makes a crazy offer. So let's say you have Crochet and another FA SP in the middle of the rotation. I feel ok that they can get 3-4 guys out of the dozen guys in the minors and any other signings or trades that haven't happened yet. If you keep Robert, turn 2 position players from the minors into regulars, find 1 or 2 position players this deadline, you're looking at two offseasons to find another 3-4 guys. Maybe I'm nuts, but those numbers don't seem outlandish to me. Will the team have a shot at the world series? Probably not. But I'll be able to come home from work in the summer and put a baseball game on that doesn't feel like someone kicking me in the balls instead of a stupid netflix documentary about a tiktok cult. The problem is, the White Sox aren't going to sign a middle of the rotation FA SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Just now, WestEddy said: Why don't you just go look them up? We are deep in pitching. That's not a controversial statement. I want to see your list, since im pretty sure I saw you say the other day we got a "Good young SP prospect" in the Bummer trade which was fascinating to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 minute ago, T R U said: The problem is, the White Sox aren't going to sign a middle of the rotation FA SP. They just signed one this past offseason. How low are your expectations? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 8 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: I agree. I don't trade Crochet unless someone makes a crazy offer. So let's say you have Crochet and another FA SP in the middle of the rotation. I feel ok that they can get 3-4 guys out of the dozen guys in the minors and any other signings or trades that haven't happened yet. If you keep Robert, turn 2 position players from the minors into regulars, find 1 or 2 position players this deadline, you're looking at two offseasons to find another 3-4 guys. Maybe I'm nuts, but those numbers don't seem outlandish to me. Will the team have a shot at the world series? Probably not. But I'll be able to come home from work in the summer and put a baseball game on that doesn't feel like someone kicking me in the balls instead of a stupid netflix documentary about a tiktok cult. Oh, thank you for that. That was very funny and I pretty much agree with that bolded sentiment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 hour ago, T R U said: C - Korey Lee 1B - Andrew Vaughn 2B - NO ONE 3B - NO ONE SS - NO ONE LF - Andrew Benintendi CF - Luis Robert RF - Corey Julks DH - Gavin Sheets SP - Garrett Crochet SP - Erick Fedde SP - NO ONE SP - NO ONE SP - NO ONE BULLPEN - Kopech, Wilson, Leasure, and then a bunch of NO ONE Ohtani's got nothing on this NO ONE guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 If the Sox have to trade all their good players cause they'll never be able to sign them then why have a team? Just contract the team or get an owner with deep pockets who wants to win. You know this Central Division isn't that hard to rim. Remember it's usually the Sox responsible for these teams actually having good seasons cause they boatrace the Sox so often. We singlehandedly gave the Royals confidence early on, ditto Minnesota which was in the tank til it played the Sox. Sickening we can't sign anybody and apparently will have to win with 22 to 25 year olds and retreads which will never happen. Geez, sell the damn team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 11 minutes ago, T R U said: I want to see your list, since im pretty sure I saw you say the other day we got a "Good young SP prospect" in the Bummer trade which was fascinating to me. Gowans at Winston-Salem is the prospect we got in the Bummer trade. He's probably the next starter promoted out of high-A. AAA Davis Martin Sean Burke Jonathan Cannon Shane Drohan* AA Noah Schultz* Drew Thorpe Jairo Iriarte Ky Bush* Mason Adams Jake Eder* A+ Riley Gowans Juan Carela Tyler Schweitzer* Drew McDaniel Shane Murphy* Tanner McDougal Peyton Pallette A Grant Taylor Lucas Gordan* Seth Keener Aldrin Batista Jake Bockenstedt Jake Peppers R Christian Oppor* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 18 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: They just signed one this past offseason. How low are your expectations? Very low, did you just become a fan or something? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Gowans at Winston-Salem is the prospect we got in the Bummer trade. He's probably the next starter promoted out of high-A. AAA Davis Martin Sean Burke Jonathan Cannon Shane Drohan* AA Noah Schultz* Drew Thorpe Jairo Iriarte Ky Bush* Mason Adams Jake Eder* A+ Riley Gowans Juan Carela Tyler Schweitzer* Drew McDaniel Shane Murphy* Tanner McDougal Peyton Pallette A Grant Taylor Lucas Gordan* Seth Keener Aldrin Batista Jake Bockenstedt Jake Peppers R Christian Oppor* There is not 15 good SP prospects on this list my man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I’m so fucking tired of everything… the Sox losing so much gives me some solace as it’s relatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 (edited) 6 minutes ago, T R U said: Very low, did you just become a fan or something? Nope. Been a fan for a while and I've seen them do it many times. Not sure why you are pretending a mundane occurrence is some unattainable feat. Edited June 5 by Nardiwashere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 7 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: Nope. Been a fan for a while and I've seen them do it many times. Not sure why you are pretending a mundane occurrence is some unattainable feat. Because mundane would be a MASSIVE improvement at this time from historically bad dumpster fire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 18 minutes ago, T R U said: There is not 15 good SP prospects on this list my man That's what I figured you'd say. Which ones do you dispute, and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 (edited) 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Because mundane would be a MASSIVE improvement at this time from historically bad dumpster fire. THEY LITERALLY SIGNED A GUY WHO FITS THIS DESCRIPTION IN DECEMBER. But maybe you are all right. T R U brought up a fantastic point when he argued that if they make no trades, sign no players, promote no prospects, decline all options, fail to re-sign anyone, and do not field a full roster, they will continue to be bad. I never thought of it like that. Edited June 5 by Nardiwashere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 2 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: THEY LITERALLY SIGNED A GUY WHO FITS THIS DESCRIPTION IN DECEMBER. But maybe you're all right. T R U brought up a fantastic point when he argued that if they make no trades, sign no players, promote no prospects, decline all options, fail to re-sign anyone, and do not field a full roster, they will continue to be bad. I never thought of it like that. And if you eliminate all of the examples of good players they've obtained, THEY'VE NEVER OBTAINED ANY GOOD PLAYERS!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Because mundane would be a MASSIVE improvement at this time from historically bad dumpster fire. They were a dumpster fire before the term was popular. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 7 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: THEY LITERALLY SIGNED A GUY WHO FITS THIS DESCRIPTION IN DECEMBER. But maybe you are all right. T R U brought up a fantastic point when he argued that if they make no trades, sign no players, promote no prospects, decline all options, fail to re-sign anyone, and do not field a full roster, they will continue to be bad. I never thought of it like that. I wouldn't really call Martin mundane, but you do you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: I wouldn't really call Martin mundane, but you do you. Martin Maldonado was signed in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Just now, WestEddy said: Martin Maldonado was signed in January. December 26th https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/transaction-tracker/white-sox?&transactiontype=all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I think I have a pretty good idea which SoxTalk members spend a lot of time writing negative yelp reviews in their spare time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 minute ago, Nardiwashere said: I think I have a pretty good idea which SoxTalk members spend a lot of time writing negative yelp reviews in their spare time. I also think I have figured out where flat earthers come from. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 15 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: THEY LITERALLY SIGNED A GUY WHO FITS THIS DESCRIPTION IN DECEMBER. But maybe you are all right. T R U brought up a fantastic point when he argued that if they make no trades, sign no players, promote no prospects, decline all options, fail to re-sign anyone, and do not field a full roster, they will continue to be bad. I never thought of it like that. That’s not what I said at all. I said if they don’t trade Robert, Crochet, Fedde, etc and only declined options on the obvious players they would have upwards of 15 roster spots to fill next season. Secondly, they threw 7.5 million per year at an unknown SP and it’s paying off. That’s great, but if that’s your expectation for filling out the rotation that’s not going to end well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Since we're chasing the 61 Mets for worst 162 have record, it should be noted after 8 short years of sub .500 baseball they won a WS in 69. 2032 Baby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 56 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: They just signed one this past offseason. How low are your expectations? Fedde? A guy who was a scrap heap "20% of the time this works out" type signing? The type of signing the Sox have made for a decade, even when firmly in the contention window and need much more than just 20% odds of average production? You can't make a living signing guys that had career .3 WAR to fill out the rotation. That's doomed to fail over a large sample, as we've all seen. The occasional lightning strike doesn't make up for the half a dozen misses before and after. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Just now, Texsox said: Since we're chasing the 61 Mets for worst 162 have record, it should be noted after 8 short years of sub .500 baseball they won a WS in 69. 2032 Baby Also the Astros lost 110 games before becoming good. CHECKMATE haters. After we lose 120 we are gonna win 5 WS in a ROW. BOOM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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