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3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

We all know JR is the real culprit. If I'm carrying a pool you're crying a pool about what exactly , that he had to talk to the media and put his best foot foward straight into his mouth ? He has to say something positive. The culture talk was a coverup for hey we're rebuilding and our team sucks and going forward I'd like to be better defensively but I can't spend any money to get players who can hit and play defense but I can spend a whole $15M on Eric Fedde and turn Crochet into a SP. Perhaps losing Moncada and Robert and playing Benetendi ( who he inherited) has helped make the drgense worse. But regardless it's the 1st year of a freaking rebuild that hardly had anyone to trade. He's in a rat trap built by the guy who hired him . What exactly did you think was going to happen this year ? I've been telling you for months it was a bad plan to turn garbage into prospects but wasn't much else he could do. I've admitted no one but JR would've hired him to be GM .

Are you unhappy Crochet and Fedde have worked out so far. There have been good things going on. The farm on the pitching side is looking strong. I keep seeing the farm listed in the top 10 sometimes top 5. Yes the trades made by Hahn and Williams have a lot to do with that but they don't make those decisions in a vaccume .Maybe Getz had some input. Thorpe is coming. He couldve hardly pithed any better since being acquired by Getz. Inciarte's done all right.Zavala has promise. And you really want to go on and on about Getz putting on a brave face in the off-season ?

 

Where else have they been ranked in the Top 5 besides Bleacher Report?

Just curious.

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10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Where else have they been ranked in the Top 5 besides Bleacher Report?

Just curious.

I saw something just today that had them 5. It was on YouTube.

And It's Gone!  Podcast posted 12 days ago .12K Views.

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6 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Did James Shields ever pitch again after leaving the Sox?  Tatis is a weird one because he never actually played for them.  Yeah, he turned into a star, but it is hard to say he "improved" when he never proved here at all.

I don't think so. 

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9 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Just out of curiosity I looked up the 23 roster.  Names of note:

Basically almost every offensive player has gotten worse since leaving the Sox while the pitching has improved by and large.

Hardly the "everyone" narrative we previously heard. 

Grandal 23 .647 OPS vs 24 .470

Andrus DNP in 24

Anderson 23 .582 OPS vs 24 .427

Jake Burger 23 w/Sox .806 OPS vs 24 .597 OPS

Seby 23 w/ Sox .511 OPS vs 24 .489

Romy 23 .585 OPS, vs 24 .651

Alberto DNP in 24

Trayce DNP in 24

Frazor DNP 24

Hasley DNP 24

Naquin DNP 24

Marisnick DNP 24

Billy Hamilton DNP 24

Jose Rodriguez DNP 24

Giolito DNP 24

Lynn 23 w/Sox 6.47 era 24 3.58 era

Cease 23 4.58 ERA vs 24 3.51 era

Graveman 23 3.48 era vs 2.42, though his FIP has actually gone up from 4.82 last year to 5.00 this year

Santos DNP 24

Bummer 23 6.79 era vs 24 3.68 (FIP difference is only 3.58 to 2.74)

ReyLo 23 w/Sox 4.29 era vs 24 1.85 era

Middleton 23 3.96 era vs 24 1.99 (though now injured)

Scholtens DNP 24

Joe Kelly 23/w Sox 4.97 era vs 24 4.73

Urena 23 4.10 era vs 3.44 era

Ramsey DNP 24

Deikman 23 w/Sox 7.94 era vs 24 3.80

Cronin 23 9.00 era vs 24 2.10

Navarro DNP 24

After that I quit...

 

 

 

 

Pillar?  Compare him to entire Sox fWAR as an overall team.

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