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WestEddy Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I think we are entering the phase of Dave Dombrowski’s tenure in Philadelphia where he says “screw the prospects” and throws the entire farm away in one deadline. If not Philly, Seattle makes a lot of sense. https://t.co/dDpgWiisWO — Dylan (@NotCease) June 24, 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 The Phillies, Yankees and Royals are some of the teams that have sent scouts to watch White Sox reliever Michael Kopech in recent weeks, according to @MLBBruceLevine. pic.twitter.com/VRH0mlEbXM — Phillies Tailgate (@PhilsTailgate) June 20, 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Trade Hypothetical: Phillies get: Michael Kopech and Paul DeJong White Sox get: Griff McGarry (10th ranked prospect) and Caleb Ricketts (20th ranked) The only way I can see Kopech being moved for valuable return is if he’s packaged up 1/2#WhiteSox #Ringthebell https://t.co/Ur5NdDMy8O — ???? ? (@StonecoldSxnick) June 14, 2024 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 If we are going to do a deal with the Phils for Kopech, I know the top end of the guys are probably offlimits (Painter, Miller, Abel, and maybe even the young Crawford) but they have a lot of interesting positional prospects at the back half of their top 10 that we should be targeting such as Caba, Saltiban, Rincon, and Rincones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: This would be such an awful trade lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 8 minutes ago, T R U said: This would be such an awful trade lol Why? What do you think Kopech is worth? He sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 16 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Why? What do you think Kopech is worth? He sucks I was going to say. The guy sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 18 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Why? What do you think Kopech is worth? He sucks He has a lot of arm talent; scouts might see something they can fix. Teams might envision him as a starter for next season. Someone's top 10-15. Heck last year we got Dodgers #10 plus Leasure for Kelly and Lynn, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 minute ago, GreenSox said: He has a lot of arm talent; scouts might see something they can fix. Teams might envision him as a starter for next season. Someone's top 10-15. Heck last year we got Dodgers #10 plus Leasure for Kelly and Lynn, The proposal is a 10 and 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: The proposal is a 10 and 20. Well, the proposal doesn't seem that awful to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 They can have Kopech free of charge, with the caveat that they have to take back Pedro too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: They can have Kopech free of charge, with the caveat that they have to take back Pedro too. Benintendi + Robert lol. JR screwing fans all season long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 24 Author Share Posted June 24 22 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: They can have Kopech free of charge, with the caveat that they have to take back Pedro too. Any other team would just fire Pedro and be done with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Any other team would just fire Pedro and be done with it. Getz is too scared to expose himself to the "once the manager is fired" bromide, then fans start looking with their pitchforks and torches to team executives for the next head to roll. Right now, there's still a level of insulation that exists, just like when KW/Hahn "used" franchise icon Ventura and managed to turn him into an absolute punching bag from 2013-2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 16 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Any other team would just fire Pedro and be done with it. When the propensity for stupid requires "creative" solutions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, GreenSox said: Well, the proposal doesn't seem that awful to me. That was exactly my point. If you can get a 45 FV prospect for Kopech and a 40 FV for Dejong I think that’s good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I'm just really about people throwing around names, at this point. Curious what other teams' fans would think appropriate. After three weeks, the Chicago Cubs' bullpen is flailing. Could a trade for White Sox reliever Michael Kopech be on the table? Read my article for @HeavyOnSports.https://t.co/b87qfGEKpE — Rachael Millanta (@rachaelmillanta) April 17, 2024 Quote Cubs receive: Michael Kopech (RHP) White Sox receive: David Bote (INF), Pablo Aliendo (C) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Just what a flailing bullpen needs: Michael Kopech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 hours ago, GreenSox said: He has a lot of arm talent; scouts might see something they can fix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 58 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I'm just really about people throwing around names, at this point. Curious what other teams' fans would think appropriate. I think Kopech sucks but this is a comically bad offer. Wtf would the Sox want Bote? He carries negative trade value and then the prospect is a 40 FV guy? Geez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 2 hours ago, WestEddy said: I'm just really about people throwing around names, at this point. Curious what other teams' fans would think appropriate. I'd rather bet on the mental capacity of Michael Kopech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 7 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: If we are going to do a deal with the Phils for Kopech, I know the top end of the guys are probably offlimits (Painter, Miller, Abel, and maybe even the young Crawford) but they have a lot of interesting positional prospects at the back half of their top 10 that we should be targeting such as Caba, Saltiban, Rincon, and Rincones. Gotta be Caba. An actual shortstop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 4 minutes ago, nrockway said: Gotta be Caba. An actual shortstop. MLB has Caba as the Phillies #5 prospect and #99 in the MLB top 100. I can’t imagine Kopech could net that kind of value for 1.5 seasons of control with the way he has been pitching. But yeah, if the Phillies are dumb enough to offer that kind of value for him, you take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Man I don't see why anybody would trade good players for Kopech. He's not that dandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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