WestEddy Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 On 7/10/2024 at 3:07 PM, ChiSox59 said: Soon enough. I know you have them both being DFA in August, but I doubt that. Would sure be nice if Eloy would give a parting gift and get red hot the next couple weeks... Expand Although, didn't we go through a period in August of teams DFAing players when the teams felt their playoff window closed? I could see Eloy and Yoan going through waivers to see if anyone wanted to pick up their salary for a post-season run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 if Moncada comes back before July 30th, I could easily see him moved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 10, 2024 Author Share Posted July 10, 2024 On 7/10/2024 at 4:02 PM, WestEddy said: Although, didn't we go through a period in August of teams DFAing players when the teams felt their playoff window closed? I could see Eloy and Yoan going through waivers to see if anyone wanted to pick up their salary for a post-season run. Expand We did, and that could absolutely be done for Eloy and Yoan as the team isn't going to want to pay to buy them out anyway., 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 On 7/10/2024 at 4:10 PM, joejoesox said: if Moncada comes back before July 30th, I could easily see him moved Expand Eat the buyout and most of the remaining salary then maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 On 7/10/2024 at 4:11 PM, southsider2k5 said: We did, and that could absolutely be done for Eloy and Yoan as the team isn't going to want to pay to buy them out anyway., Expand And people last year kept saying Clevinger’s buyout was an issue for only pitching 2 months. I would think the same thing would apply here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 10, 2024 Author Share Posted July 10, 2024 On 7/10/2024 at 4:17 PM, Bob Sacamano said: And people last year kept saying Clevinger’s buyout was an issue for only pitching 2 months. I would think the same thing would apply here. Expand Could very well be, but also I don't think either of those guys has the history or reputation of Clevinger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 Would any team be dumb enough to want him in a trade with the Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 6:28 AM, greg775 said: Would any team be dumb enough to want him in a trade with the Sox? Expand I do believe there has been quite a few opinions on this question already voiced. Power up your reading motor Greggy-Poo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 And he had the day off after his first rehab start… taking it slow while they challenge him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 Honestly a shame that he is going to come back. He doesn't deserve to be granted a starting spot. Sosa has been playing just as well just being recalled. Unless Sosa moves to 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 11, 2024 Author Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 2:37 PM, GGajewski18 said: Honestly a shame that he is going to come back. He doesn't deserve to be granted a starting spot. Sosa has been playing just as well just being recalled. Unless Sosa moves to 2B. Expand They really should move Sosa to 2B, but I am sure Nicky something something something too valuable to lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 2:37 PM, GGajewski18 said: Honestly a shame that he is going to come back. He doesn't deserve to be granted a starting spot. Sosa has been playing just as well just being recalled. Unless Sosa moves to 2B. Expand I hope Sosa continues to get regular ABs at 2B for the week or two that Moncada would be playing, then the Sox can get something (a bag or two of baseballs for Martin Maldonado to sign would be sufficient) in return. That would be the ideal case for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 Sox fan frustrations aside, Moncada still has trade value. It's not cut and dried. I would think there would be some team that may take an $8 million 2 month flyer on an elite defensive 3B that has the capability of being a .900 OPS player in a contract year. Yoan came out swinging this year and was playing fairly well before he got hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 4:32 PM, Greg Hibbard said: Sox fan frustrations aside, Moncada still has trade value. It's not cut and dried. I would think there would be some team that may take an $8 million 2 month flyer on an elite defensive 3B that has the capability of being a .900 OPS player in a contract year. Yoan came out swinging this year and was playing fairly well before he got hurt. Expand But it’s not just $8 million. Moncada is also owed a $5 million dollar buyout so it’s more like $13 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 4:35 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: But it’s not just $8 million. Moncada is also owed a $5 million dollar buyout so it’s more like $13 million. Expand You're right. That would be a steep price to pay on a flyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 11, 2024 Author Share Posted July 11, 2024 If the Sox don't take on a significant portion of his salary and/or buyout, he has a zero chance of leaving the Sox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 And that’s $13 million for an injury-prone player that couldn’t even stay healthy for the majority of his most important season ever, his contract year. Other teams realize this, just as frustrated Sox fans do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 4:44 PM, southsider2k5 said: If the Sox don't take on a significant portion of his salary and/or buyout, he has a zero chance of leaving the Sox. Expand ....unless they package him with a Crochet / Robert.... ? </sarc> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 11, 2024 Author Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 4:48 PM, JoeC said: ....unless they package him with a Crochet / Robert.... ? </sarc> Expand Why did you have to ruin my day? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 4:49 PM, southsider2k5 said: Why did you have to ruin my day? Expand #soxtalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 4:32 PM, Greg Hibbard said: Sox fan frustrations aside, Moncada still has trade value. It's not cut and dried. I would think there would be some team that may take an $8 million 2 month flyer on an elite defensive 3B that has the capability of being a .900 OPS player in a contract year. Yoan came out swinging this year and was playing fairly well before he got hurt. Expand Unfortunately he is already on that team that would buy into that poor decision making. There's always a minuscule chance they get a prospect that could actually do something. Most likely it ends up being filler material for the minors or that player who is still in A ball in their 30's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 4:48 PM, JoeC said: ....unless they package him with a Crochet / Robert.... ? </sarc> Expand If they eat Moncada's buyout, package him with Crochet, who is essentially free, an acquiring team is getting Moncada and Crochet for $4.133m ea the rest of the way. I think the hit would be negligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 5:17 PM, WestEddy said: If they eat Moncada's buyout, package him with Crochet, who is essentially free, an acquiring team is getting Moncada and Crochet for $4.133m ea the rest of the way. I think the hit would be negligible. Expand It's the "if they eat Moncada's buyout" part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 7:22 PM, JoeC said: It's the "if they eat Moncada's buyout" part Expand Not sure where he got the 4.133 million either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 11, 2024 Share Posted July 11, 2024 On 7/11/2024 at 7:57 PM, 4OCS said: Not sure where he got the 4.133 million either Expand I think it's the roughly $8MM Moncada is owed in salary + the $400K or so that Crochet is owed for the rest of the year, divided by 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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