Chisoxmb35 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It only matters what he thinks, and he obviously has a major problem with how he has been handled. And he has every right to be. Hahn and the Sox brass bungled his development every step of the way. I would say it's astounding how bad they fucked it up, but it's the White Sox, so it's unfortunately not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 28 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Whoever said it above - they brought up a real interesting point. If Sox wanted to play hard ball, they really could send him to the minors and start to mess with his arb clock while they manage his arm. I don't think the PR / benefit of doing it is worth it - cause other clubs and players notice those things, but than again, Sox aren't already a lost cause there. According to one poster it should be painfully obvious to all of us that Crochet hates the Sox . If that's the case he couldn't hate them much more than he already does if they stuck him the minors for a month. Do it. He got all that service time while injured and if his pitches are slowing down is an indication he's getting tired then they have every right to demote him to shut him down and regain a year of service time. If Crochet is playing hardball ( and I don't know if that was CAA's plan ) then go for it. He's not the only one that has to protect himself. The Sox would be well within their rights to do it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 7 minutes ago, Chisoxmb35 said: And he has every right to be. Hahn and the Sox brass bungled his development every step of the way. I would say it's astounding how bad they fucked it up, but it's the White Sox, so it's unfortunately not. By using him in relief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Sacamano Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) Honestly, as a lot of us wanted, they should have started him in the minors THIS SEASON and eased him into the role. Let him build early/get a year of control back. Now they have this mess. Edited July 26 by Bob Sacamano 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Just now, Whisox05 said: Wait, so it wasn’t a giant conspiracy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaleAleSox Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 2 minutes ago, Whisox05 said: But...you are controlling much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 1 minute ago, Whisox05 said: BuT hE dIDnT cOnFiRm It Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, fathom said: It’s been confirmed by a variety of sources. If it wasn’t true, there definitely would have been something said by now. I know you keep trying to hammer this home to me and I'm sure in essence it's correct but I still don't understand why Heyman had that info probably before the All Star game and held it for what 4 -6 days ? It sure got confirmed by enough people after that. But of course no one is saying how they confirm it independent of piggybacking Heymans report. All of a sudden all these different people confirming it now have there own sources that had the same info as Heyman. That a lot of sources popping up. I haven't heard one of them say they talked to Crochet like Heyman did or that they talked to his agent. People in power manipulate the media all the time . Media sources themselves are biased to their own ideologies . The truth is out there .? Edited July 26 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I know this is all moot because of Jerry, it’s just still maddening they won’t even consider getting creative. They are going to be bad the next few years. Payroll will be low. Sign Crochet for 5 years, contract starts next year. Why not front load it in years 1 and 2, everyone wins, Crochet gets his money, Sox have a 28 year old Crochet when in a perfect world they are ready to compete, and have some added flexibility because he’s on the backend of the deal. This isn’t Fedde, I actually agree with the gregs of the world, I don’t care who you are, they shouldn’t be trying to trade a 25 year old who has been one of the best pitchers in baseball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: BuT hE dIDnT cOnFiRm It NoR dEnY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 What a bizarre story this has turned into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 40 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: What a bizarre story this has turned into. That's the White Sox way a three-ring circus. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I know you keep trying to hammer this home to me and I'm sure in essence it's correct but I still don't understand why Heyman had that info probably before the All Star game and held it for what 4 -6 days ? It sure got confirmed by enough people after that. But of course no one is saying how they confirm it independent of piggybacking Heymans report. All of a sudden all these different people confirming it now have there own sources that had the same info as Heyman. That a lot of sources popping up. I haven't heard one of them say they talked to Crochet like Heyman did or that they talked to his agent. People in power manipulate the media all the time . Media sources themselves are biased to their own ideologies . The truth is out there .? CAA has been telling everyone who would listen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, Tony said: I know this is all moot because of Jerry, it’s just still maddening they won’t even consider getting creative. They are going to be bad the next few years. Payroll will be low. Sign Crochet for 5 years, contract starts next year. Why not front load it in years 1 and 2, everyone wins, Crochet gets his money, Sox have a 28 year old Crochet when in a perfect world they are ready to compete, and have some added flexibility because he’s on the backend of the deal. This isn’t Fedde, I actually agree with the gregs of the world, I don’t care who you are, they shouldn’t be trying to trade a 25 year old who has been one of the best pitchers in baseball We need to find eight or nine hitters. That will be impossible to do without getting a couple of high end prospects for Crochet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: CAA has been telling everyone who would listen Thank you. Finally that's all I needed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) Story tonight in Sun-Times: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/07/26/garrett-crochet-addresses-contract-extension-reports-as-trade-deadline-nears Pitcher injuries have dominated the beginning of this season and the shortened starts the Sox have implemented for Crochet are by his own volition, manager Pedro Grifol said. Edited July 27 by Lip Man 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Just now, Lip Man 1 said: Story tonight in Sun-Times: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/07/26/garrett-crochet-addresses-contract-extension-reports-as-trade-deadline-nears Summary? CST blocked for me here in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 12 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Story tonight in Sun-Times: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/07/26/garrett-crochet-addresses-contract-extension-reports-as-trade-deadline-nears Pitcher injuries have dominated the beginning of this season and the shortened starts the Sox have implemented for Crochet are by his own volition, manager Pedro Grifol said. Pedro needs to wear duct tape around his mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Pedro needs to wear duct tape around his mouth Such a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tnetennba said: What a bizarre story this has turned into. I am curious though. The Sox supposedly talked to Crochet about an extension which he quickly rejected. Did the Sox front office then talk to Crochet openly about their plans as a result of an extension not being possible? Did they say, hey, we will work hard to move you a contender to help you potentially get a ring and also get paid? Did they advise him on not discussing his innings limit or making a stupid demand like an extension that would kill his trade value? Edited July 27 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 We can’t have anything fun. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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