wegner Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 7:59 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: There's only risk in keeping him, no reward. Crochet leads MLB Pitchers in WAR. I think he's an incredible arm, and believe in everything he's doing, but it's still very possible he'll never be the best pitcher in the world for four straight months again in his life. In fact, it's more likely than not. Expand How about if they do not trade him....shut him down for the rest of the season ala Strausburg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:01 PM, southsider2k5 said: Weren't you just stanning for an extension? Expand He did but I think realizes it isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 (edited) On 7/30/2024 at 8:02 PM, wegner said: How about if they do not trade him....shut him down for the rest of the season ala Strausburg? Expand Based on what I've read about Bannister, he wouldn't even want crochet to do that. They want to keep him throwing, just not a lot and at high stress (gtg there). Slowly Deload him without ever fully stopping. That means risk of injury and/or some arm fatigue and outcome regression. He's at the top right now, there's no where else for him to go. He can sustain it and continue to build value, but reality is he's gonna be innings capped ROY so not like he's going to establish himself as a work horse. Edited July 30, 2024 by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:01 PM, southsider2k5 said: Weren't you just stanning for an extension? Expand As I said in my initial post, I want to keep him and still would try that at all costs. I'm just not dumb enough to think that if they don't trade him today, they're keeping him. They've announced to the world they're trading him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 Crochet isn't moving today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:23 PM, reiks12 said: Crochet isn't moving today. Expand Probably not, and that's fine. Hopefully he can build back some value for the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:23 PM, reiks12 said: Crochet isn't moving today. Expand The one positive with that is if JR would wake up and hire a real GM, and let him sign him or trade him. But that won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 Eduardo Perez ripping on the Sox for being awful with communication is quite interesting considering how close he is to Pedro 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:07 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: As I said in my initial post, I want to keep him and still would try that at all costs. I'm just not dumb enough to think that if they don't trade him today, they're keeping him. They've announced to the world they're trading him. Expand But if you don't believe that he is going to be the same pitcher, why would you extend him?q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:28 PM, fathom said: Eduardo Perez ripping on the Sox for being awful with communication is quite interesting considering how close he is to Pedro Expand hmm I wonder what's going on behind the scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:28 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: hmm I wonder what's going on behind the scenes Expand AJP needs Tommy Pham on his podcast, STAT! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:26 PM, Dick Allen said: The one positive with that is if JR would wake up and hire a real GM, and let him sign him or trade him. But that won't happen. Expand The real GM is JR's buddy and is Getz's sounding board. He wont get fired. The only thing that will ever happen while JR is alive is that another puppet will be put out to be the face of the team while TLR pulls the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 (edited) I'd still like to work out an extension with Crochet, probably impossible with our ownership group. But yeah, sox discord and twitter saying he won't be moved today. @Y2Jimmy0's tweet about not having enough suitors makes sense. Maybe dodgers get desperate at the 11th hour Edited July 30, 2024 by whitesoxwinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 7:51 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: If you're trading crochet, today is the time. Waiting until the offseason will reduce his value regardless of what some say. Expand Ehh. It really depends on the offers. Its not inconcievable that teams just aren't going to pay top dollar considering the extension demands and the fact that Crochet can't really help you that much ROS with the innings limits. I get what you're saying, but if you don't like the offers, waiting is so much better than settling. The guy still has 2 years of control, and will still be pretty dang cheap in 2025 because arb raises aren't 10x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:28 PM, fathom said: Eduardo Perez ripping on the Sox for being awful with communication is quite interesting considering how close he is to Pedro Expand Eduardo is kind of a fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 Tanner Scott to Padres. Should be a hefty return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:28 PM, fathom said: Eduardo Perez ripping on the Sox for being awful with communication is quite interesting considering how close he is to Pedro Expand Communication about what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 I don't see any way Crochet is available to pitch in October. Why would a team give up a haul for him now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:32 PM, DirtySox said: Tanner Scott to Padres. Should be a hefty return. Expand Damn it.. Taking guys away for Crochet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrittBurnsFan Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:34 PM, supernuke said: I don't see any way Crochet is available to pitch in October. Why would a team give up a haul for him now? Expand I guess a team could just try to beat everyone else to GC by acquiring him now...and not letting everyone else have a shot in December? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:31 PM, ChiSox59 said: Ehh. It really depends on the offers. Its not inconcievable that teams just aren't going to pay top dollar considering the extension demands and the fact that Crochet can't really help you that much ROS with the innings limits. I get what you're saying, but if you don't like the offers, waiting is so much better than settling. The guy still has 2 years of control, and will still be pretty dang cheap in 2025 because arb raises aren't 10x. Expand Yeah after crochet screwed us it seemed to be the writing on the wall that we would have to wait for the offseason. Oh well. It is a pretty decent starting pitching free agent class, was hoping it would be poor before looking it up just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 30, 2024 Author Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:30 PM, whitesoxwinner said: I'd still like to work out an extension with Crochet, probably impossible with our ownership group. But yeah, sox discord and twitter saying he won't be moved today. @Y2Jimmy0's tweet about not having enough suitors makes sense. Maybe dodgers get desperate at the 11th hour Expand What in the world is Sox discord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 Wow.. A massive return for Tanner Scott. Snelling, Mazur, Pauley, Beshears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:26 PM, hogan873 said: Probably not, and that's fine. Hopefully he can build back some value for the off season. Expand Build back some value? Huh? Crochet may never be more valuable than he is today. He could fall apart the rest of the season due to hitting the wall, or god forbid, get injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30, 2024 Share Posted July 30, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 8:34 PM, supernuke said: I don't see any way Crochet is available to pitch in October. Why would a team give up a haul for him now? Expand You got teams like the Cubs buying for next year right now. You could think your chances are better next year and try to acquire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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