southsider2k5 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Here is the Day 2 thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, joejoesox said: Why would you rush Hagen Smith to the bigs if you don't expect to have a competitive team for at least 2-3 years. even if he's ready, why would you start his clock before the team is even good. keep reading that he could be on the team in 2025 or 2026, are you kidding me. If he's dominating the minors, try to extend him to a team friendly deal for like 8+ yrs, at least you've got him for a couple more years I've got bad news for those people who think the Sox are gonna be good in 2 years I think it won't be the Sox rushing him, he has to the stuff to move himself quickly. Odds are high he barely even needs to see the A levels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, Buehrle>Wood said: I'll reiterate I love the pick in a vacuum. What's awful is that we are using the drafts as a mean to supplant our star player rather than supplementing them. Hopefully I'm proved wrong there but f*** the Sox if so. Crochet has been starting for 3 months and is still a massive injury concern. The Sox hit lightning in a bottle here and need to jump on the opportunity to trade him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Hagen Smith interview https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/video/hagen-smith-on-being-drafted-in-the-1st-round?t=mlb-draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I think this is a fantastic pick. You can never have enough pitching. The other aspect of this is you can flip pitching for quality hitters, you can't do that the other way around in MLB. Build the best pitching staff in the majors or American League and the rest will take care of itself. Now imagine if dumbass Jerry would pony up and pay crochet when time comes. Imagine what this rotation could be........ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 2 hours ago, pcq said: Major issue missing Jac. We need hitters guys. Just my take. What a fking joke this organization is ... Jac was by far best available player, future all-star, generational player potential, absolute baller at Florida. They pick this guy because he's a hometown/area code player (read: much cheaper). GMAFB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 4 minutes ago, shago said: What a fking joke this organization is ... Jac was by far best available player, future all-star, generational player potential, absolute baller at Florida. They pick this guy because he's a hometown/area code player (read: much cheaper). GMAFB I would have been fine with Cags but using another top pick on a 1B would have been risky. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, shago said: What a fking joke this organization is ... Jac was by far best available player, future all-star, generational player potential, absolute baller at Florida. They pick this guy because he's a hometown/area code player (read: much cheaper). GMAFB The history of high draft picks being used on 1B's is incredibly awful. Couple that with some bad chase and swing and miss issues, and I don't think the Sox are the team for him. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 44 minutes ago, shago said: What a fking joke this organization is ... Jac was by far best available player, future all-star, generational player potential, absolute baller at Florida. They pick this guy because he's a hometown/area code player (read: much cheaper). GMAFB No he wasn't. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 The only issue with Hagen seems to be at times his giving up walks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 50 minutes ago, 2Deep said: I think this is a fantastic pick. You can never have enough pitching. The other aspect of this is you can flip pitching for quality hitters, you can't do that the other way around in MLB. Build the best pitching staff in the majors or American League and the rest will take care of itself. Now imagine if dumbass Jerry would pony up and pay crochet when time comes. Imagine what this rotation could be........ You can absolutely flip hitting for quality pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: No he wasn't. Good catch. Hagen Smith is from Texas and pitched at Arkansas/ Don't see anything about him in the Area Code games. Think he might be mixing him up with the next picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 nice piece by James Fegan on the day 1 intrigue. Lot of Shirley reaction. https://soxmachine.com/2024/07/white-sox-2024-mlb-draft-day-1-recap/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 "We want him. Just take him and that's what it's going to be." Chris Getz. Stud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 43 minutes ago, bmags said: You can absolutely flip hitting for quality pitching. I'm not being argumentative but can you give me some examples from recent years. I am having a hard time coming up with quality hitters being traded for quality pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer12 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I am extremely stoked, and massively disappointed in the pick. I'm a huge Hogs fan! It's fantastic that I get to see him on my Sox, but it's also disappointing because I know we will waste his talent. Hagen is player I will always be a fan of, but the best thing that could happen for his career is to be traded after a few years. (I hope I'm wrong) He's a great kid, with loads of potential. Easily could have went #1 in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 9 minutes ago, 2Deep said: I'm not being argumentative but can you give me some examples from recent years. I am having a hard time coming up with quality hitters being traded for quality pitchers. Orioles trade Joey Ortiz for Corbin Burnes. Diamondbacks trade Jazz Chisholm for Zac Gallen. Rangers trade Acuna's brother for Scherzer. Astros trade Drew Gilbert for Verlander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 So far about 73% yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I like the picks. We've done well developing TOR lefties so might as well stick with it. High school kids with the next picks seems smart as well. We're going nowhere fast. Maybe in 2028 they will have emerged and help us up at the big league level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 30 minutes ago, bmags said: Orioles trade Joey Ortiz for Corbin Burnes. Diamondbacks trade Jazz Chisholm for Zac Gallen. Rangers trade Acuna's brother for Scherzer. Astros trade Drew Gilbert for Verlander. Fair enough.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 3 hours ago, 2Deep said: I think this is a fantastic pick. You can never have enough pitching. The other aspect of this is you can flip pitching for quality hitters, you can't do that the other way around in MLB. Build the best pitching staff in the majors or American League and the rest will take care of itself. Now imagine if dumbass Jerry would pony up and pay crochet when time comes. Imagine what this rotation could be........ I agree. Develop pitching and acquire bats. That said, if Wolkow is actually our 6th best positional prospect, we aren’t actually doing that bad there either. If Getz uses the TDL to acquire some more bats, that could easily make up the disparity. Whatever you think of Getz, the deadline here is going to go a long way towards seeing whether he has any effective plan or not. Hard to complain about the organizational starting pitching depth at this point, though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Getz has got to at minimum hit a triple with any Fedde or Crochet trade here to start redeeming himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFAthewave69420 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, 4OCS said: Getz has got to at minimum hit a triple with any Fedde or Crochet trade here to start redeeming himself. Need big time OF bats coming back in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Thank God Kenny Williams is gone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 9 hours ago, bmags said: I think there should be a hell of a lot more pressure on Marco Paddy than Shirley. Shirley has shown he can bring in an all stars and top 20 prospects without spending $60 million to acquire them. Meanwhile Paddy has all but retired when we need international to supplement so badly. I have a sneaky suspicion we will see change on the Paddy front soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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