GreenSox Posted July 15, 2024 Share Posted July 15, 2024 (edited) On 7/15/2024 at 11:32 PM, mac9001 said: If they went significantly over slot on the prep kids it just looks like a really poor strategy. There were likely guys on the board you could have taken under slot and not punted the rest of day 2. Expand Exactly. There were other players they could have taken of equal ability who wouldn't have required overslot. OR actually go overslot for a player whose talent warrants it rather than reaching. Edited July 16, 2024 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 15, 2024 Share Posted July 15, 2024 On 7/15/2024 at 11:32 PM, mac9001 said: If they went significantly over slot on the prep kids it just looks like a really poor strategy. There were likely guys on the board you could have taken under slot and not punted the rest of day 2. Expand The class isn’t good enough to pay slot all the way through. I’d much rather take Caleb Bonemar than give slot to bad players who don’t deserve it in 7-10. It’s a bad draft class 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 15, 2024 Share Posted July 15, 2024 Sloan is getting 3 million from the Mariners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 The depth wasn’t as strong as I expected with getting another comp pick, but I like the first 5 picks. I don’t have any hopes for something that special tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 MLB draft is such a crapshoot that if we hit on at least 2 picks, it's a win. Smith seems like a no brainer and Bonemar has such lightning tools that I'm really not worried about anything else. The only way for us to climb our way out of this hole is to trade well and fill it in with draft picks that hit. It seems like we've been fairly exceptional at developing pitching since the early 90's. At some point our luck with position players has to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 12:21 AM, bmags said: The depth wasn’t as strong as I expected with getting another comp pick, but I like the first 5 picks. I don’t have any hopes for something that special tomorrow. Expand Agreed but I’m not sure what the $$ is being spent on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 12:37 AM, Y2Jimmy0 said: Agreed but I’m not sure what the $$ is being spent on Expand Is there any chance we're in on a really high upside HS that everyone else sees as a won't ever sign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 Wolkow seemed to come out of nowhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 12:38 AM, TaylorStSox said: Is there any chance we're in on a really high upside HS that everyone else sees as a won't ever sign? Expand I mean I suppose. More likely to be a college RSO though I’d think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 Maybe I'm just that delusional, but I think we draft pretty well and there has to be some kind of plan. Not everything can just be "jerry's a cheap pos." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 12:41 AM, TaylorStSox said: Maybe I'm just that delusional, but I think we draft pretty well and there has to be some kind of plan. Not everything can just be "jerry's a cheap pos." Expand They haven’t been cheap in the draft in a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 12:41 AM, TaylorStSox said: Maybe I'm just that delusional, but I think we draft pretty well and there has to be some kind of plan. Not everything can just be "jerry's a cheap pos." Expand We might just be severely underestimating what the prep selections are going to cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 12:39 AM, TaylorStSox said: Wolkow seemed to come out of nowhere. Expand Wolkow was in the 7th round. It’s harder to sign a guy for a million after round ten. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 12:41 AM, TaylorStSox said: Maybe I'm just that delusional, but I think we draft pretty well and there has to be some kind of plan. Not everything can just be "jerry's a cheap pos." Expand Pitching? Sure. Anything else? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 12:57 AM, southsider2k5 said: Pitching? Sure. Anything else? No. Expand We've drafted position players fairly well too. We just haven't developed them. Generally ,we've been conservative with position players, but it's not like our drafts have been backwards k's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 (edited) On 7/16/2024 at 12:46 AM, DirtySox said: We might just be severely underestimating what the prep selections are going to cost. Expand I mean there’s no way we could be a million off. I think someone is coming tomorrow Edited July 16, 2024 by Squirmin' for Yermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 1:01 AM, TaylorStSox said: We've drafted position players fairly well too. We just haven't developed them. Generally ,we've been conservative with position players, but it's not like our drafts have been backwards k's. Expand This is an amazing politician answer. "We've drafted good position players. They just didn't do well." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 Short of a big singing tomorrow I don't see the value in 2A/B to offset the underwhelming 3-10 picks. I've felt pretty good about the last two years and even the senior signs had some interesting attributes. But just not seeing a lot to get excited about the entire day 2 result. This and next year's draft were key to adding some impact bats that would set a foundation for the rebuild and I'm left feeling very underwhelmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 1:53 AM, mac9001 said: Short of a big singing tomorrow I don't see the value in 2A/B to offset the underwhelming 3-10 picks. I've felt pretty good about the last two years and even the senior signs had some interesting attributes. But just not seeing a lot to get excited about the entire day 2 result. This and next year's draft were key to adding some impact bats that would set a foundation for the rebuild and I'm left feeling very underwhelmed. Expand Caleb Bonemer ranked #36 in the class at BA. I’m guessing the White Sox feel similarly or higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 (edited) On 7/16/2024 at 1:38 AM, Quin said: This is an amazing politician answer. "We've drafted good position players. They just didn't do well." Expand I think it's fairly accurate. If you look at the history of our draft picks, most have been really positive with the exception of Madrigal and Fulmer. Some people were pissed about Gonzalez, but that's just because Keith Law didn't like him and Law has a cult. Edited July 16, 2024 by TaylorStSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 (edited) Bonemer is the least of my concerns. Everything that kid does screams talent. Odds are that he won't make it, but I'll take my chances with an athletic kid that swings the bat like he's being attacked by demons. Edited July 16, 2024 by TaylorStSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 1:01 AM, TaylorStSox said: We've drafted position players fairly well too. We just haven't developed them. Generally ,we've been conservative with position players, but it's not like our drafts have been backwards k's. Expand Who have we drafted as a position player in say the last 10 years who has dine anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 1:53 AM, mac9001 said: Short of a big singing tomorrow I don't see the value in 2A/B to offset the underwhelming 3-10 picks. I've felt pretty good about the last two years and even the senior signs had some interesting attributes. But just not seeing a lot to get excited about the entire day 2 result. This and next year's draft were key to adding some impact bats that would set a foundation for the rebuild and I'm left feeling very underwhelmed. Expand Especially if you are trying add talent to win in the next few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 2:05 AM, TaylorStSox said: I think it's fairly accurate. If you look at the history of our draft picks, most have been really positive with the exception of Madrigal and Fulmer. Some people were pissed about Gonzalez, but that's just because Keith Law didn't like him and Law has a cult. Expand This is three years old, but it's not like the Sox have had their fortunes change for the better in the past 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 On 7/16/2024 at 2:11 AM, southsider2k5 said: Who have we drafted as a position player in say the last 10 years who has dine anything? Expand The conversation is Vaughn, Burger and Collins. The only one of those picks I don't like is Burger, and it's only because of health. I still kind of have hope for Vaughn and Collins had such a good eye and natural power that I get the pick. Collins just didn't work out. It happens. Beyond that, the last position player we took was Anderson, and he was a star until his life destroyed his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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