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1 minute ago, Timmy U said:

I think this is where the Sox jump on a lot of college pitchers with tools but no results ala Peppers, Adams, etc. I don't think they have the money for a H.S. splash.

They get an overage of about 730k, plus they saved around a million dollars on the back end picks.  They almost have to have room for SOMETHING 

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1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

They get an overage of about 730k, plus they saved around a million dollars on the back end picks.  They almost have to have room for SOMETHING 

I get the feeling that Smith got slot and Bonemer and Larson got more than first assumed. I think they punted the second half of day 2 to pay for that.

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4 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

I get the feeling that Smith got slot and Bonemer and Larson got more than first assumed. I think they punted the second half of day 2 to pay for that.

The 2nd round pick comes with a $2.173m slot on its own merits.  The next is $1.2m basically.  There is probably some overage, but I don't think they will have no savings from Smith AND $1.7 million in overage from these two picks.  Say Smith is $7.2 million (slot was 7.7, next pick was 7.2, so he wasn't getting more than that if he went past the Sox.  If he got past KC that number dropped to $6.8m.  That is an extra 500k.  If Bonemer is $2.5m and Larson is $2, that leaves the Sox about $500k over there, which would leave them like $1.2 more past their overage plus late round savings.  If Smith is more like $7 million, his savings alone would basically pay for Larson at $2 million.

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1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

The 2nd round pick comes with a $2.173m slot on its own merits.  The next is $1.2m basically.  There is probably some overage, but I don't think they will have no savings from Smith AND $1.7 million in overage from these two picks.  Say Smith is $7.2 million (slot was 7.7, next pick was 7.2, so he wasn't getting more than that if he went past the Sox.  If he got past KC that number dropped to $6.8m.  That is an extra 500k.  If Bonemer is $2.5m and Larson is $2, that leaves the Sox about $500k over there, which would leave them like $1.2 more past their overage plus late round savings.  If Smith is more like $7 million, his savings alone would basically pay for Larson at $2 million.

I hope you're right. Shirley may just be creating a smoke screen with all of this poor-mouthing.

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If we sign the Seniors for 10k, which is typical Sox behavior, we save about...

6th- 365k

8th-222k

9th-189k

10th-175k

That totals out to 951k in savings.  The 7th round pick Fox is also the Jr  5'9" reliever who goes 89-92mph, so I can't imagine he gets full slot either at 293k either, but even if I don't count him, that is where the extra million dollars comes from.

I would guess we have an extra million dollars to spend today, as a complete educated guess.

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35 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Showing some work...

If we sign the Seniors for 10k, which is typical Sox behavior, we save about...

6th- 365k

8th-222k

9th-189k

10th-175k

That totals out to 951k in savings.  The 7th round pick Fox is also the Jr  5'9" reliever who goes 89-92mph, so I can't imagine he gets full slot either at 293k either, but even if I don't count him, that is where the extra million dollars comes from.

I would guess we have an extra million dollars to spend today, as a complete educated guess.

Bonemer's number is what scares me. I now get the feeling he took Shirley for everything he had. They seemed way to overly conservative on day 2 just to make a big play for day 3. Feels more like they were trying to dig out of a hole.

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I have a hard time believing we can move any of those SEC commits.

He's the kind of hitter we've talked about not succeeding with but Zach Franklin out of Mo State is a draft eligible sophomore who hits a lot of dingers and bats left handed. OTOH, he has a 25% k rate.

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31 minutes ago, mac9001 said:

Bonemer's number is what scares me. I now get the feeling he took Shirley for everything he had. They seemed way to overly conservative on day 2 just to make a big play for day 3. Feels more like they were trying to dig out of a hole.

Here's the thing.  If they really blew it all for these two high school kids and Smith, they have changed absolutely nothing about their draft philosophy.  This is the exact same thing that happened under Getz.

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2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

They get an overage of about 730k, plus they saved around a million dollars on the back end picks.  They almost have to have room for SOMETHING 

They should have some money today but it sounds like night one was expensive. I’m still not sure where the overage went or is going though. 

1 hour ago, bmags said:

I have a hard time believing we can move any of those SEC commits.

He's the kind of hitter we've talked about not succeeding with but Zach Franklin out of Mo State is a draft eligible sophomore who hits a lot of dingers and bats left handed. OTOH, he has a 25% k rate.

I’m interested in Zach Stewart and Cade Obermueller today. No idea if either is an option. These picks today will all rank higher than 6-10 though. 

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Here's the thing.  If they really blew it all for these two high school kids and Smith, they have changed absolutely nothing about their draft philosophy.  This is the exact same thing that happened under Getz.

I like going prep in 2nd. What did you prefer? I like that plan in a shitty draft. 

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5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

They should have some money today but it sounds like night one was expensive. I’m still not sure where the overage went or is going though. 

I’m interested in Zach Stewart and Cade Obermueller today. No idea if either is an option. These picks today will all rank higher than 6-10 though. 

I like going prep in 2nd. What did you prefer? I like that plan in a shitty draft. 

ugh damnit that's the second time i've called him zack franklin. Too much overlap between the name, the state, and the similar name to multiple sox players.

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5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

They should have some money today but it sounds like night one was expensive. I’m still not sure where the overage went or is going though. 

I’m interested in Zach Stewart and Cade Obermueller today. No idea if either is an option. These picks today will all rank higher than 6-10 though. 

I like going prep in 2nd. What did you prefer? I like that plan in a shitty draft. 

That's a lot of wasted picks for that few guys.

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33 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

That's a lot of wasted picks for that few guys.

It's 6 players in an 11 player class so far. This draft is really bad. Players legitimately not worth playing the slot game through round 10. The White Sox believe that Mclain, Saucke and Antonacci are real pieces for them. 

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2 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

It's 6 players in an 11 player class so far. This draft is really bad. Players legitimately not worth playing the slot game through round 10. The White Sox believe that Mclain, Saucke and Antonacci are real pieces for them. 

I hope they are right, because even the seniors seem worse than usual 

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Just now, joejoesox said:

is there a live feed for this late in the draft or are we just pulling info from Twitter 

Front page of MLB.com will have a link to the stream, though the draft tracker is typically the fastest thing during these rounds.

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