DirtySox Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Blixton Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 19 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Dibs on calling him Drago. Russian Sexson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Has any team done the new draft and follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 19 minutes ago, DirtySox said: But what if I want him and the others? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Painfully unexciting draft. At least the 17th round pick is fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, Falstaff said: Wow, what a story, I am pulling for Oleg Hell yes… dudes my new favorite underdog to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: It's probably the build up expectation for this year being something different being pitching by a couple of people, but outside of the lottery ticket in the 20th round, this felt like every Rick Hahn draft ever. The first 6 picks are all prospects as well as the first three on day three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, DirtySox said: There's a rumor that a day 1 guy (not a Sox draftee) isn't going to sign so this is a smart move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 14 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: There's a rumor that a day 1 guy (not a Sox draftee) isn't going to sign so this is a smart move. Interesting. Did the player/agent go back on a deal or did the team not do it's due diligence on the contract demands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 21 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: There's a rumor that a day 1 guy (not a Sox draftee) isn't going to sign so this is a smart move. Please be Cleveland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 45 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: There's a rumor that a day 1 guy (not a Sox draftee) isn't going to sign so this is a smart move. Genius move by the Sox FO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 49 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: There's a rumor that a day 1 guy (not a Sox draftee) isn't going to sign so this is a smart move. The issue with this is that you lose the pick and the bonus pool space anyway. In theory, if Bonemer was supposed to get $3 million and didn’t sign, the Sox would lose the ability to spend the slot of $2.2 million at 43. They could only use whatever the overslot portion was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 5 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: You have to think of rounds 6-10 as basically 16-20 in actuality. That's how this works sometimes. Grab some really cheap guys to ensure that you can utilize the entire bonus pool. This isn't a draft class where it made sense to pay slot values in every round. There aren't enough good players. The MLB draft system is crazy to me. NFL/NBA drafts are so much more straight forward i.e. teams pick whomever they think is the best player for them and move on. I get that in the MLB they can draft HS players and this changes the algebra a bit but I still think that the MLB could simplify the system dramatically by implementing an actual slot system instead of the suggested slot system they use now. I feel like MLB keeps their outdated and overly convoluted draft system simply because “that’s how we’ve always done it”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Who from day 3 that are expected to sign for overslot - Shepardson? Pierce George? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 25 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Who from day 3 that are expected to sign for overslot - Shepardson? Pierce George? I think the first three probably will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sleepy Harold Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Per BA undrafted tracker the Sox signed RHP Colton McIntosh from Washington. Not a whole lot to go on here https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=mcinto000col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 9 hours ago, bighurt4life said: The MLB draft system is crazy to me. NFL/NBA drafts are so much more straight forward i.e. teams pick whomever they think is the best player for them and move on. I get that in the MLB they can draft HS players and this changes the algebra a bit but I still think that the MLB could simplify the system dramatically by implementing an actual slot system instead of the suggested slot system they use now. I feel like MLB keeps their outdated and overly convoluted draft system simply because “that’s how we’ve always done it”. I like this better, and this system isn’t “how we’ve always done it”, it’s only about 12 years old. MLB draft will never be straight forward because they are picking players based on what they could be in 3 years physically, let alone talent wise. “BPA” is a much more fluid concept. Andrew Vaughn was certainly “BPA” over CJ Abrams in 2019, he was older and already accomplished destroying college baseball. But Abram’s had a much higher ceiling and lo and behold he is an all star and Vaughn sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Sox sign Grant Smith SS. No school listed at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 LOL If Grant Smith were Hagen Smith's little brother, you could give him 150k without counting against your pool. You could drop Hagen by 150k , again LOL. Next year we need a first rounder with ten to twenty little brothers/cousins. We save millions and sign EVERYBODY. LOL system beaten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, BamaDoc said: LOL If Grant Smith were Hagen Smith's little brother, you could give him 150k without counting against your pool. You could drop Hagen by 150k , again LOL. Next year we need a first rounder with ten to twenty little brothers/cousins. We save millions and sign EVERYBODY. LOL system beaten Pretty sure someone when to jail for doing that internationally. Wasn't that the Braves skimming operation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 3 hours ago, bmags said: I like this better, and this system isn’t “how we’ve always done it”, it’s only about 12 years old. MLB draft will never be straight forward because they are picking players based on what they could be in 3 years physically, let alone talent wise. “BPA” is a much more fluid concept. Andrew Vaughn was certainly “BPA” over CJ Abrams in 2019, he was older and already accomplished destroying college baseball. But Abram’s had a much higher ceiling and lo and behold he is an all star and Vaughn sucks. But just like the draft system is different in MLB, so is BPA. BPA in the MLB Draft isn't about the player TODAY. It's about projection and what you believe the player will develop into. To me, BPA has always meant not drafting for a need or position. I've never agreed with the thought of "The system is really thin on catchers, we need to draft one in the first three rounds." You take the the player who you think has the best opportunity to develop into a quality major leaguer. (This doesn't account for player preference based on organizational strengths in development, which I do think is a real thing and if an organization believes they can develop a certain type of player better, I can get on board with that to some degree) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 33 minutes ago, Tony said: But just like the draft system is different in MLB, so is BPA. BPA in the MLB Draft isn't about the player TODAY. It's about projection and what you believe the player will develop into. To me, BPA has always meant not drafting for a need or position. I've never agreed with the thought of "The system is really thin on catchers, we need to draft one in the first three rounds." You take the the player who you think has the best opportunity to develop into a quality major leaguer. (This doesn't account for player preference based on organizational strengths in development, which I do think is a real thing and if an organization believes they can develop a certain type of player better, I can get on board with that to some degree) Yeah I was about to say the same thing. I look at best player available as what their outcome will be in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 5 hours ago, bmags said: I like this better, and this system isn’t “how we’ve always done it”, it’s only about 12 years old. MLB draft will never be straight forward because they are picking players based on what they could be in 3 years physically, let alone talent wise. “BPA” is a much more fluid concept. Andrew Vaughn was certainly “BPA” over CJ Abrams in 2019, he was older and already accomplished destroying college baseball. But Abram’s had a much higher ceiling and lo and behold he is an all star and Vaughn sucks. Every sport drafts players based on how good they will be down the road. Very few athletes come out of college (or HS obviously) a finished product. Some are high floor/low ceiling and vice versa. They’re all about figuring out how good this 19-21 year old will be when they’re 27-28 and in their prime. My complaint about the mlb draft is the crazy way teams pick people to sign them underslot/overslot then draft college seniors 5 rounds in a row and pay them $10k so they can draft a HS kid in round 17 and pay him $1mil etc…. It is just such an ass backwards way of going about business. Why not just have hard slot values and pick whomever you think best fits the value of that slot? The way it’s done now is so over the top convoluted it’s insane to me. Just my two cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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