PaleAleSox Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 4/14/2025 at 3:11 PM, DirtySox said: I want. Expand Looks like a ten year old threw that pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 4/14/2025 at 7:39 PM, PaleAleSox said: Looks like a ten year old threw that pitch. Expand Every time I see Nick Maton he reminds me of a high school 2B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I seem to remember when we drafted James Beard comments on how weak his competition was with high school baseball in Alabama. That would make me apprehensive on putting much stock in Hall’s numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 4/14/2025 at 4:47 PM, almagest said: I know you can never have enough pitching, and the Sox are really good at developing lefties, but I am so worried about the offensive future of this organization. Maybe drafting for need isn't the way to go, but another starting pitcher at 1-10 if there are any near equivalent offensive prospects there would be a mistake. Expand I agree . And that's how I saw it last year; although the 3 much-discussed players (Caglianone, Wetherholt, Griffin) were there when the Sox picked, they still went pitcher. I don't know if they are better at drafting pitching than hitting, but under Shirley they have certainly used far more top-of-the-draft resources on pitching than hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 4/14/2025 at 7:39 PM, PaleAleSox said: Looks like a ten year old threw that pitch. Expand I haven't played baseball in decades and even my eyes lit up seeing that meatball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 4/14/2025 at 9:05 PM, GreenSox said: I agree . And that's how I saw it last year; although the 3 much-discussed players (Caglianone, Wetherholt, Griffin) were there when the Sox picked, they still went pitcher. I don't know if they are better at drafting pitching than hitting, but under Shirley they have certainly used far more top-of-the-draft resources on pitching than hitting. Expand I like Smith, but Caglianone is looking really good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooneLoganEra Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 4/14/2025 at 9:38 PM, almagest said: I like Smith, but Caglianone is looking really good Expand Looks good and he's moving quickly. He and Witt in the same lineup are gonna provide KC with fireworks for some years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) On 4/15/2025 at 12:10 AM, TheBooneLoganEra said: Looks good and he's moving quickly. He and Witt in the same lineup are gonna provide KC with fireworks for some years. Expand I’m more concerned about Hagen’s control. Edited April 15 by fathom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 4/15/2025 at 12:10 AM, TheBooneLoganEra said: Looks good and he's moving quickly. He and Witt in the same lineup are gonna provide KC with fireworks for some years. Expand And Pasquantino if he can stay healthy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 4/15/2025 at 12:36 AM, fathom said: I’m more concerned about Hagen’a control. Expand I feel like that was only his most recent start. Has he had more control problems than that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 4/15/2025 at 12:45 AM, almagest said: I feel like that was only his most recent start. Has he had more control problems than that? Expand Yes, it wasn’t good in ST and dangerous actually had moved him down because of the control issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) On 4/15/2025 at 12:36 AM, fathom said: I’m more concerned about Hagen’a control. Expand And he didn't go past 5 or 6 innings very often in college. In 2023 they draft low-ceiling Gonzalez and in 2024 they pass on high ceiling Cags. Well, I think the way they draft is weird and sort of arrogant (and they don't have the results to support arrogance). Edited April 15 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) On 4/15/2025 at 2:51 AM, GreenSox said: And he didn't go past 5 or 6 innings very often in college. In 2023 they draft low-ceiling Gonzalez and in 2024 they pass on high ceiling Cags. Well, I think the way they draft is weird and sort of arrogant (and they don't have the results to support arrogance). Expand Hope this doesn't turn into another Carson Fulmer, who seemingly peaked in college...or all the pressure will fall on Taylor and Schultz. Yes it early. Maybe I am inherently biased against anyone whose hair reminds of Clevinger's lol. Edited April 15 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 In Hagen’s first start it took him a couple innings to find his release point and once he did he was quite literally unhittable. He didn’t get a chance this past weekend because he hit his inning pitch limit, but feasibly could have done the same. If the issue is being more consistent with his mechanics and release point - or at least finding it earlier in the game - that’s what the minors are for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 4/15/2025 at 3:17 AM, caulfield12 said: Hope this doesn't turn into another Carson Fulmer, who seemingly peaked in college...or all the pressure will fall on Taylor and Schultz. Yes it early. Maybe I am inherently biased against anyone whose hair reminds of Clevinger's lol. Expand HOLY FUCKING s%*# 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 On 4/14/2025 at 8:53 PM, Lyle Moooton said: I seem to remember when we drafted James Beard comments on how weak his competition was with high school baseball in Alabama. That would make me apprehensive on putting much stock in Hall’s numbers. Expand Beard was from Mississippi where there was concern about his competition. Think Alabama is better and Hewitt-Trussville is 7A classification. Not sure what summer circuits etc the kid has appeared at for further evaluation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Law's top 50 draft eligible players https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6278346/2025/04/15/2025-top-50-mlb-draft-rankings-keith-law/?source=athletic_pulsenewsletter&campaign=13188419&userId=6062851 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) On 4/16/2025 at 2:42 PM, southsider2k5 said: Law's top 50 draft eligible players https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6278346/2025/04/15/2025-top-50-mlb-draft-rankings-keith-law/?source=athletic_pulsenewsletter&campaign=13188419&userId=6062851 Expand Top 15 posted below. Quote We’re now past the midpoint of the college baseball regular season, when just about every high school prospect of note has begun his spring season as well, making it a good time to update the rankings of the best players in this year’s draft class. As I said in the first ranking in March, this is a deep class, but it’s weaker than ever at the very top, rivaling the 2016 draft for the worst top echelon of any draft I’ve ever covered. That’s going to mean we see a lot of well-under-slot deals this year, maybe right at the very first pick, to make up for the fact that none of these players would have gone first or second in a typical year, probably not even in the top five picks in the loaded 2023 class. There is real depth in this draft, though: There’s a huge group of high school shortstops, many of whom project to stay there for the long term, along with a strong set of college left-handed starters and at least an average group of hard-hitting college outfielders. The college catching crop isn’t bad, either, although the high school group is almost nonexistent; the two best ones are probably going to end up in the outfield. It’s a good year to pick later in the first round, and still a good year to have an extra pick or two. Expand Quote 1.) Ethan Holliday 2.) Liam Doyle 3.) Jamie Arnold 4.) Aiva Arquette 5.) Marek Houston 6.) Gavin Kilen 7.) Eli Willits 8.) Kade Anderson 9.) Jojo Parker 10.) Billy Carlson 11.) Ike Irish 12.) Brendan Summerhill 13.) Dean Curley 14.) Kyson Witherspoon 15.) Gavin Fien Expand Edited April 16 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 On 4/16/2025 at 2:14 PM, BamaDoc said: Beard was from Mississippi where there was concern about his competition. Think Alabama is better and Hewitt-Trussville is 7A classification. Not sure what summer circuits etc the kid has appeared at for further evaluation. Expand Good call you’re right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 On 4/16/2025 at 3:26 PM, DirtySox said: Top 15 posted below. Expand Sounds like it's not so bad to be forced to drop to 10 this year, besides losing the extra draft pool $. Hopefully next year is much stronger at the top, when the Sox are basically guaranteed a top 3 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted Wednesday at 07:52 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:52 PM (edited) On 4/15/2025 at 3:17 AM, caulfield12 said: Hope this doesn't turn into another Carson Fulmer, who seemingly peaked in college...or all the pressure will fall on Taylor and Schultz. Yes it early. Maybe I am inherently biased against anyone whose hair reminds of Clevinger's lol. Expand Fulmer had a rushed, jerky delivery. It was an obvious even to an amateur watcher like me. He also induced a lot of bad chase in college that wasn't going to happen against pro hitters. It wouldn't surprise me though if Smith was a JR pick. Our insiders/gurus posted many times pre-draft that they'd be surprised if the Sox took a pitcher; and yet, they did. The guys ranked 12-15 on Law's list look interesting to me - get one on an underslot. Edited Wednesday at 10:03 PM by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Timmy U Posted Thursday at 03:59 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:59 PM Is 1-10 too rich for Gamble? Probably. But I like him. Maybe a good overslot at 2-1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted Thursday at 04:47 PM Share Posted Thursday at 04:47 PM He could be if they get him at the right number. There could be a lot of deals cut in the top 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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