Springfield Soxfan Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Saw some social media action today that some national writer brought up the KW/Keenyn Walker story that showed KE’s gross incompetence. Don’t remember what that was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/16/2025 at 4:48 PM, Springfield Soxfan said: Saw some social media action today that some national writer brought up the KW/Keenyn Walker story that showed KE’s gross incompetence. Don’t remember what that was? Expand Walker was the Sox first pick (Comp round overall 47) who was a huge surprise when selected from a Utah CC. Literally no one thought he was a first rounder but Kenny saw him play one game and came away convinced. Centerfield tools, could run pretty well, but couldn't really hit. I believe these days he's like a fireman or a paramedic or something. Not his fault that Kenny drafted him that high, but kind of symptomatic of how the Sox weren't like other orgs in a bad way. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Springfield Soxfan Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/16/2025 at 5:05 PM, Timmy U said: Walker was the Sox first pick (Comp round overall 47) who was a huge surprise when selected from an Utah CC. Literally no one thought he was a first rounder but Kenny saw him play one game and came away convinced. Centerfield tools, could run pretty well, but couldn't really hit. I believe these days he's like a fireman or a paramedic or something. Not his fault that Kenny drafted him that high, but kind of symptomatic of how the Sox weren't like other orgs in a bad way. Expand Thank you! What a train wreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut33tillman Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 What does everyone think of Cam Cannarella? Feels like he’ll go somewhere around where we pick. Hit tool is pretty good and the defense and speed are ++. I still think the value at 10 is probably up the middle prep with Willits, Carlson, Cunningham depending who’s there if any of those 3 but curious on how the board views Canarrella? Lack of power will be big issue with his evaluation I’m sure. Looks like he’s a max 15 HR guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/17/2025 at 2:10 AM, peanut33tillman said: What does everyone think of Cam Cannarella? Feels like he’ll go somewhere around where we pick. Hit tool is pretty good and the defense and speed are ++. Expand I have Cannarella ahead of Summerhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 He obviously has to continue to do it against better pitching but it's an exciting start to the spring for Houston who is a lock to stay at SS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DirtySox Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) BA has an article up from covering the Shriners Children's College Showdown. Lists three players trending up with blurbs, then reports on some of the top ranked names. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/13-mlb-draft-prospects-to-know-from-a-loaded-college-baseball-opening-weekend-in-texas/ From the trending up portion. Will only include the writeup on Forbes. Quote Patrick Forbes, RHP, Louisville Draft Rank: 178 Weekend Stats: 5 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 11 K It took exactly three games to discover the first prospect we have severely under ranked in the 2025 class. Forbes checked in at No. 178 on our preseason draft board, but after an electric outing vs. Texas, it’s clear he belongs much higher. In his first two seasons with Louisville, Forbes pitched mostly out of the bullpen. In 2024, he posted a 3.72 ERA over 29 innings before a strong four-start effort in the Cape Cod League. Now Louisville’s ace, Forbes has a lean frame with further strength potential at 6-foot-3, 220 pounds while throwing with a loose and quick arm action from low three-quarters slot. He’s a good mover on the mound with whippy arm speed and a bit of recoil in his finish, but nothing egregious. In this outing, Forbes pitched with a 93-97 mph fastball that touched 98 and exploded out of his hand with tons of armside running life. He averaged 95-96 over five innings and was still touching 96 in his final frame in the 70-84 pitch range. Forbes attacked the top of the zone consistently and generated 11 whiffs with his fastball, including a number of chases up above the zone. He paired his heater with a low-to-mid-80s slider that featured hard-biting action and tight shape at the bottom of the zone. It was effective against both righties and lefties with a bit more sweeping action when he landed it to the glove side. On several occasions, he used the pitch as a lethal backfoot swing-and-miss breaking ball against lefthanded hitters. Forbes’ fastball and slider both profiled as plus pitches in this look. He also mixed in a few upper-80s cutters and 89-90 mph changeups, but the fastball/slider combo was his main offering. He’s likely to fit as a top 60 prospect in our next draft update. Expand Quote Luke Hill, 3B/2B, Ole Miss Draft Rank: Not ranked Weekend Stats: 5-for-9 (.556), 2 HR, 1 3B, 2 BB, 0 K Expand Quote Jared Spencer, LHP, Texas Draft Rank: Not ranked Weekend Stats: 5.2 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 6 K Expand Edited February 18 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) From the same article pulled out some of the top ranked players from the article that could be White Sox relevant. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/13-mlb-draft-prospects-to-know-from-a-loaded-college-baseball-opening-weekend-in-texas/ Quote Cam Cannarella, OF, Clemson Draft Rank: 6 Weekend Stats: 4-for-12 (.333), 3 2B, 1 BB, 4 K Cannarella was the highest-ranked draft prospect in the six-team field at Globe Life Park. After playing through a right shoulder injury in 2024, Cannarella is still not quite 100% with his throwing arm. He wasn’t a full participant in Clemson’s pregame infield and outfield, and during warmups between innings, he would throw from only about 60 feet to get loose. It sounds like he’s making normal progress in the wake of his right labrum surgery. Offensively, Cannarella had a fine weekend with four hits and three doubles, though he didn’t look quite up to game speed and showed more swing-and-miss than expected for someone with his hitting track record and collegiate miss rates. A 6-foot, 185-pound lefthanded hitter, Cannarella has a neutral and relaxed setup in the box with a standard leg kick and solid rhythm with loose and easy hands. There’s some noise in his load, including a pre-pitch bat waggle, a bit of a hand hitch and press back towards the catcher, but at his best, Cannarella has shown an ability to maneuver the barrel around the zone and make contact vs. all pitch types. This weekend specifically, Cannarella seemed to be finding his timing against fastballs. He also showed some vulnerability against right-on-left changeups and breaking balls down in the zone. He swung through a pair of middle-middle 95 mph fastballs that he probably would love another crack at and struck out four times compared to just one walk. His speed allows him to turn singles into doubles, and on one occasion, he drove a 91 mph fastball on the ground through a shifted infield to left-center and used a 4.26-second turn around the first base bag (a 65-grade run time) to beat a throw to second base. In center field, Cannarella showed his typical strong instincts and range and had one impressive athletic play tracking a ball hit to straight center at the warning track. Expand Quote Brendan Summerhill, OF, Arizona Draft Rank: 22 Weekend Stats: 3-for-11 (.273), 1 HR, 3 BB, 2 K, 1 SB Summerhill joined Cannarella as a first-team outfielder on our preseason college All-American teams and had a solid three-game debut to the season that featured a home run, three hits, three walks and a stolen base. A 6-foot-3, 205-pound outfielder and lefthanded hitter, Summerhill has a well-rounded game but a bit of a tweener outfield profile. Scouts want to see him either play center field or show more power this spring, and in all three games for Arizona on opening weekend, he led off and handled right field. Summerhill has an upright stance in the box and takes a slight toe tap that leads to a leg kick and long stride with a fairly direct hand path to the ball. His lower half move can cause him to get a bit lungy at times, which leaves him out in front of offspeed or just underneath elevated fastballs, but in general, he shows a strong understanding of the zone with good contact ability. Summerhill showed a patient approach with a nice ability to read spin out of the hand and generally made loud contact all weekend. Summerhill’s best result came in a 1-0 count when he got a righthanded cutter at 87 mph middle-in. He did a nice job getting the bat head out and pulled the ball into the second row of the right field stands at 103 mph off the bat. Expand Quote Nolan Schubart, OF, Oklahoma State Draft Rank: 25 Weekend Stats: 4-for-10 (.400), 2 2B, 4 BB, 3 K In a tournament where seemingly every hitter in all six lineups was lighting up the exit velocity board, one of college baseball’s most fearsome sluggers went homerless. While Oklahoma State fans in attendance would beg to differ after a titanic blast pulled down the line in game one against Clemson was called foul, Schubart ended up going 4-for-10 with a pair of doubles, four walks and three strikeouts. Schubart is a hulking, 6-foot-5, 235-pound lefthanded hitter who generates some of the best exit velocities in the class. He pairs that strength and excellent bat speed with a steep and uphill path that leads to plenty of crushed fly balls but also a ton of swing-and-miss. To help counteract the miss tendencies, Schubart brings a strong batting eye and understanding of the strike zone to the table. He rarely expands the zone, and in two-strike counts, he ditches his leg kick and spreads out in a wide stance that lets his hands and natural strength do the work. While Schubart has huge power, his secondary tools are lacking, and he’ll need to sharpen his defensive game if possible to avoid a future move to first base. He’s a slower runner who’s not likely to take an extra base too often. He’ll make the routine play in right field, but his range could become more of a question mark at the next level. Schubart had one tough foul ball opportunity at the right field fence on which he came up just short. Expand Edited February 18 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I don;t think they'll take a catcher at 1-10 but damn I like this dude. I mean how many green jerseys with the name Irish on them would they sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoSoxMan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I thought that was you! Cant believe we were at the same game last night and I didnt say hi. Long time lurker, rarely post, but been following your work for years. Love the insights into the sox scouting mindset WSWRA On 2/19/2025 at 2:37 PM, Harold's Leg Lift said: I don;t think they'll take a catcher at 1-10 but damn I like this dude. I mean how many green jerseys with the name Irish on them would they sell. Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Appenzellar all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I wrote about some college options for the Sox and I’m waiting on bonus pools: https://www.futuresox.net/2025/02/19/white-sox-2025-mlb-draft-notebook-2-0/ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/20/2025 at 2:01 AM, Y2Jimmy0 said: I wrote about some college options for the Sox and I’m waiting on bonus pools: https://www.futuresox.net/2025/02/19/white-sox-2025-mlb-draft-notebook-2-0/ Expand Good work, Jimmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DirtySox Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) Kiley has his 1.0 draft rankings up. Will post through his 45 tier. https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/43938826/2025-mlb-draft-rankings-10-kiley-mcdaniel-top-50-prospects-ncaa-high-school Quote 50 FV tier 1. Jace LaViolette (21.6), RF, Texas A&M 2. Jamie Arnold (21.2), LHP, Florida State 45+ FV tier 3. Tyler Bremner (21.2), RHP, UC Santa Barbara 4. Aiva Arquette (21.7), SS, Oregon State 5. Cam Cannarella (21.8), CF, Clemson 6. Billy Carlson (19.0), SS, Corona HS (CA), Tennessee commit 7. Marek Houston (21.2), SS, Wake Forest 8. Ethan Holliday (18.3), 3B, Stillwater HS (OK), Oklahoma State commit 9. Gavin Fien (18.2), 3B, Great Oak HS (CA), Texas commit 45 FV tier 10. Eli Willits (17.6), SS, Fort Cobb-Broxton HS (OK), Oklahoma commit 11. Brendan Summerhill (21.7), CF, Arizona 12. Trent Caraway (21.2), 3B, Oregon State 13. Kayson Cunningham (19.0), SS, Johnson HS (TX), Texas commit 14. Cameron Appenzeller (18.5), LHP, Glenwood HS (IL), Tennessee commit 15. Caden Bodine (21.6), C, Coastal Carolina 16. Xavier Neyens (18.7), 3B, Mount Vernon HS (WA), Oregon State commit 17. Wehiwa Aloy (21.4), SS, Arkansas 18. Dean Curley (21.1), SS, Tennessee 19. Seth Hernandez (19.0), RHP, Corona HS (CA), Vanderbilt commit 20. Slater de Brun (18.1), CF, Summit HS (OR), Vanderbilt commit 21. Tate Southisene (18.8), SS, Basic HS (NV), USC commit 22. Luke Stevenson (21.0), C, North Carolina 23. Ike Irish (21.6), C, Auburn 24. Brock Sell (18.7), CF, Tokay HS (CA), Stanford commit 25. Brady Ebel (17.9), 3B, Corona HS (CA), LSU commit 26. Daniel Pierce (18.9), SS, Mill Creek HS (GA), Georgia commit 27. Kyson Witherspoon (20.9), RHP, Oklahoma 28. Tre Phelps III (21.0), 3B, Georgia 29. Kruz Schoolcraft (18.2), LHP, Sunset HS (OR), Tennessee commit 30. Ethan Conrad (21.0), RF, Wake Forest 31. Kade Anderson (21.0), LHP, LSU Expand Edited February 21 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 It's super early but it's exciting to see some up the middle college guys starting to emerge as potentials for 1-10. Curley, Houston, Cannarella, Austin maybe Aloy. Them along with the HS SS's (Carlson, Ebel, Willits, Cunningham) they should be able to fill a serious org need (SS, CF) without having to reach which is the exact situation you hope for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) Picked out some blurbs from the article that I found interesting/relevant. Quote I had Houston in this tier entering the season because his physicality and swing mechanics had improved so much in the fall that it's worth projecting that his numbers would improve this spring. The 6-foot-3 shortstop, who is a plus runner and defender, looks to have turned the corner offensively with an OPS over 1.700 and three home runs in his first five games. He might be in the first tier in another month, with one scout comparing him to Dansby Swanson. Expand Quote You might be surprised Holiday isn't higher on the list, given his easy plus power from the left side and infield fit. He wowed me three years ago as a freshman when I was scouting his brother Jackson, and Ethan has been considered a clear first-rounder since then. His summer numbers haven't been very good and there wasn't a reason. I was prepared to move him much lower in this ranking because those events are the best tool to project what he'll do early in pro ball. When digging deeper into his summer, I noticed he wasn't pulling fastballs and a timing issue might be to blame. The combination of his bat being too vertical as it's about to enter the hitting zone while his elbow is flared out creates a hand load position that seems to cause his problems. He's often holding in that awkward spot and is too late to get around on good velocity, sometimes bailing toward first base and fighting his hand position. A few teams also noticed something similar about his timing/trigger being problematic, but they assumed because his dad, former big leaguer Matt Holliday, is such a good swing guy that this would be fixed in the spring. Holliday won't face a lot of pro-level velocity in the spring, limiting his opportunities to prove that a subtle change can fix this issue. But this typically is not a difficult issue to correct. Expand Edited February 21 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) f***. I'm spam posting. I've become Caulfield. I just want to jump on this guy's bandwagon early. He seems fun. Edited February 21 by DirtySox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Quote You might be surprised Holiday isn't higher on the list, given his easy plus power from the left side and infield fit. He wowed me three years ago as a freshman when I was scouting his brother Jackson, and Ethan has been considered a clear first-rounder since then. His summer numbers haven't been very good and there wasn't a reason. I was prepared to move him much lower in this ranking because those events are the best tool to project what he'll do early in pro ball. When digging deeper into his summer, I noticed he wasn't pulling fastballs and a timing issue might be to blame. The combination of his bat being too vertical as it's about to enter the hitting zone while his elbow is flared out creates a hand load position that seems to cause his problems. He's often holding in that awkward spot and is too late to get around on good velocity, sometimes bailing toward first base and fighting his hand position. A few teams also noticed something similar about his timing/trigger being problematic, but they assumed because his dad, former big leaguer Matt Holliday, is such a good swing guy that this would be fixed in the spring. Holliday won't face a lot of pro-level velocity in the spring, limiting his opportunities to prove that a subtle change can fix this issue. But this typically is not a difficult issue to correct. Expand I learned a valuable lesson of putting too much weight on the summer and fall circuit with Jack Suwinski. Jack got his s%*# pushed in on the circuit and I was out. He worked his ass off during the off season and changed his body and swing. He came out in the spring and destroyed everyone who dared to pitch to him and I chalked it up as just facing awful pitching in the Chicago public league. The Jack Hammmer made it to the big leagues as a 23 yr old. Lesson learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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