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Giddey isn't as quick as maybe I was expecting, but he's stronger than expected. Not going to jump to much in one game. I still think this team will be somewhat entertaining to watch offensively - but I know they will be awful defensively. In general though, I was pretty supportive of most of the moves the front office made.  The real goal now is hopefully Zach and Lonzo and others play well and it drives up trade value to really hit a reset.  

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10 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

Giddey isn't as quick as maybe I was expecting, but he's stronger than expected. Not going to jump to much in one game. I still think this team will be somewhat entertaining to watch offensively - but I know they will be awful defensively. In general though, I was pretty supportive of most of the moves the front office made.  The real goal now is hopefully Zach and Lonzo and others play well and it drives up trade value to really hit a reset.  

If Lavine can put up performances like last night he'll definitely get to play for some other playoff team this year. 

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7 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

Bulls are a unique experience - Billy Donovan is designing an offense that is going to set all kinds of records for 3s jacked up.

Zero defense but they can score on most nights…

Haven't watched a game yet for the obvious reason but I'm still holding my breath there. They've had years before where the ball movement starts crisp before devolving. They have stuck with it from what I"ve read though, in the face of poor shot making, which has been some of the reason they've gotten out of it in past.

Legitimately amazed Ball is playing. Thought he was toast when he said he couldn't walk up stairs without pain 1.5 years in.

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8 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

Bulls are a unique experience - Billy Donovan is designing an offense that is going to set all kinds of records for 3s jacked up.

Zero defense but they can score on most nights…

I'll give him credit. He completely redesigned the offense and it's being tailor made to the personnel. This team is still not very good, but at least they are more entertaining than previously thought. 

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On 10/8/2024 at 9:45 PM, Balta1701 said:


 

😁He prolly didn't pick it out by himself, but nobody knows booze like Jerry.  Catch him in a lounge at the right time and nobody goes thirsty.  He himself could drink a whale under the table, they tell me. Got so many points on his frequent flyer card at Binny's that he didn't have to pay for it anyway.   This is the Internet so it has to be true.

I thought Joakim was more of a weed guy.

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Was at the game tonight and it honestly feels like this Bulls could be a fun team to watch - if they had just let Pat walk.

It's frustrating, because in-person I can see the flashes and I go "oh, I get it now." But then he can't make shots and doesn't hustle for boards like he needs to.

If Pat were to get hurt and Jalen Smith became the starting PF with Sanogo getting the backup big minutes, they might give you what you're missing with Pat based on sheer motor. It's almost painful to watch.

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On 11/2/2024 at 12:36 AM, Quin said:

Was at the game tonight and it honestly feels like this Bulls could be a fun team to watch - if they had just let Pat walk.

It's frustrating, because in-person I can see the flashes and I go "oh, I get it now." But then he can't make shots and doesn't hustle for boards like he needs to.

If Pat were to get hurt and Jalen Smith became the starting PF with Sanogo getting the backup big minutes, they might give you what you're missing with Pat based on sheer motor. It's almost painful to watch.

If the Bulls hang around .500 and around "would be in the play in tournament" again, what are the odds that they stand pat at the deadline?

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1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

lol so who is injured 

I think him spending most time in d league makes total sense….my auto correct removes d from league. He needs those reps - we completely agree and I’m sure he will bounce around a lot between two teams. 

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2 hours ago, bmags said:

I haven’t watched a game…but what a wonderful thing that Lonzo is playing basketball

There's part of me that wants them to keep him if there isn't lingering ill will from the medicals.

He just visibly still has the highest IQ on the team, he'll probably be cheap due to injury, and isn't *that* old. They'll need a vet that isn't Torrey Craig or Jevon Carter.

Ideally they unload Zach, Vuc and Coby for draft assets / salary relief / prospects if they're lucky and keep their pick. Let the team develop around Matas, Ayo, Pat (he's here to stay), the lotto pick and probably Giddey, if he doesn't command an unexpectedly high contract.

But I'm also worried they don't get the interest they want and decide to go for it for some stupid reason.

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3 hours ago, Quin said:

There's part of me that wants them to keep him if there isn't lingering ill will from the medicals.

He just visibly still has the highest IQ on the team, he'll probably be cheap due to injury, and isn't *that* old. They'll need a vet that isn't Torrey Craig or Jevon Carter.

Ideally they unload Zach, Vuc and Coby for draft assets / salary relief / prospects if they're lucky and keep their pick. Let the team develop around Matas, Ayo, Pat (he's here to stay), the lotto pick and probably Giddey, if he doesn't command an unexpectedly high contract.

But I'm also worried they don't get the interest they want and decide to go for it for some stupid reason.

I think they need to ideally get maximum value for the squad - Lavine, Vuc, and Ball - plus I really think they should think about moving White as well.  Multiple first round picks, cap space, etc.  Maybe take a flyer on a guy or two if you want or even inherit a contract if it helps increase value.  But this season has worked very well - but I really think they need to use that advantage to hit the strategic sell button and position themselves up for the true rebuild that needs to happen.  

None of this will be fun - but it has to be done and if the front office did it now, more selling at a high, it at least buys them some much needed good will.  Seperately - I would try to pick up a vet point guard if I could to help with Matas development. 

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8 hours ago, chw42 said:

LaVine with a great audition on his trade to Denver.

Since I’m definitely less in on bulls than I used to be, what is the bull case for that trade?

I know Lavine makes more than MPJ, but I don’t really get how this sets us up much better

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29 minutes ago, bmags said:

Since I’m definitely less in on bulls than I used to be, what is the bull case for that trade?

I know Lavine makes more than MPJ, but I don’t really get how this sets us up much better

You save maybe 5-7M and they start fresh with a new player that has a similar skill set, it’s the best I can do

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3 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

You save maybe 5-7M and they start fresh with a new player that has a similar skill set, it’s the best I can do

It seems like it's not necessarily making us way worse...and now bottom 10 seems really tough to accomplish. And then it's just "you swapped lavine for MPJ (whom I hate)." 

I unno, I'd rather have traded him to detroit for garbage than this. But I may be missing something.

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14 minutes ago, bmags said:

It seems like it's not necessarily making us way worse...and now bottom 10 seems really tough to accomplish. And then it's just "you swapped lavine for MPJ (whom I hate)." 

I unno, I'd rather have traded him to detroit for garbage than this. But I may be missing something.

Maybe you try to flip MPJ's smaller salary to another team? 

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