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WestEddy Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Article: https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/40597647/2024-mlb-trade-deadline-los-angeles-dodgers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut33tillman Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 If I’m Getz and Dodgers are serious about Crochet I’m asking for something like…. Pages De Paula Rushing Doubt they do it but I don’t love how we line up with them anyways. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 They just don't have a very attractive farm system for the Sox needs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut33tillman Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 3 minutes ago, Rusty_Kuntz said: They just don't have a very attractive farm system for the Sox needs. Nope they don’t, you’d have to grab a young piece of the big league roster to go with their prospects in a deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 Your turn Baltimore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Serious question: Why would a contender want to acquire a guy who is going to be completely shut down before meaningful baseball is to be played? Seems stupid to worry about next year when this year is here for teams like the Dodgers. I'm against trading him of course but if Sox do trade him they need the Dodgers' top 3-4 prospects on their prospect list whoever they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 (edited) 9 minutes ago, greg775 said: Serious question: Why would a contender want to acquire a guy who is going to be completely shut down before meaningful baseball is to be played? Seems stupid to worry about next year when this year is here for teams like the Dodgers. I'm against trading him of course but if Sox do trade him they need the Dodgers' top 3-4 prospects on their prospect list whoever they are. Because they can ramp him down as a 1-2 inning opener, keep him on his starting schedule, and then ramp him up again towards the end of September. And then, they have a top starter in the game for the next two seasons. Edited July 20 by WestEddy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 (edited) 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Because they can ramp him down as a 1-2 inning opener, keep him on his starting schedule, and then ramp him up again towards the end of September. And then, they have a top starter in the game for the next two seasons. Try explaining that to a fan base that wants to win now. Remember most teams are not like the White Sox in a constant state of tank/rebuild. Two innings at the beginning of the game are meaningless to contenders by the way. And you don't want to make him a reliever and possibly screw up his current routine/current arm. This is hilarious if true. Dodgers in late July worrying about next year and the year after. Only in baseball. Every move the Dodgers make should be about winning it all now. That's be insidious of them if Crochet becomes a late inning guy in the postseason. They prolly won't be able to help themselves from pitching him in late game situations in the playoffs/Series. Edited July 20 by greg775 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 minute ago, greg775 said: Try explaining that to a fan base that wants to win now. Remember most teams are not like the White Sox in a constant state of tank/rebuild. Two innings at the beginning of the game are meaningless to contenders by the way. And you don't want to make him a reliever and possibly screw up his current routine/current arm. This is hilarious if true. Dodgers in late July worrying about next year and the year after. Only in baseball. Every move the Dodgers make should be about winning it all now. That's be insidious of them if Crochet becomes a late inning guy in the postseason. They prolly won't be able to help themselves from pitching him in late game situations in the playoffs/Series. I don't work for the Dodgers. So you don't have to treat my words like the Dodger organization came to your house and said what I did. 1) The Dodgers have a small bunch of starting pitchers who aren't 9-inning endurance monsters. So their fan base probably understands stacking the roster with great pitchers who will pitch two months, or two innings at a time. 2) Putting down the batting order once at the beginning of the game isn't "meaningless". Those 6-9 outs are just as valuable early as they are late. 3) Being an opener on a 5 day schedule isn't "being a reliever". And I did mention ramping him back up for the playoffs to a 5-inning starter. 4) If you think that the Dodgers worrying about next year is hilarious, you must piss yourself laughing every time you consider that Ohtani and Yamamoto are signed to multi-year contracts. 5) "Every move should be about winning now" is a silly, meaningless mantra. There are about 4-5 levels of minor leagues that teams invest heavily in that have nothing to do with "winning now". I'll wait until you catch your breath from laughing. So, therefore, picking up a player that is controllable beyond the current season is seen as added value. Giggle yourself silly, now. 6) I'm guessing that a team that has been in the postseason the last 11 seasons will be able to "help themselves from injuring their players" in the last week of the playoffs. And if Crochet is properly ramped up, there's probably no real problem with him throwing an inning in game 7 of the World Series. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 i just noticed that the White Sox are giving out a Crochet Star Wars bobblehead (special ticket) on Friday August 30. Wonder what they will do with the bobbleheads if he is traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 minute ago, WBWSF said: i just noticed that the White Sox are giving out a Crochet Star Wars bobblehead (special ticket) on Friday August 30. Wonder what they will do with the bobbleheads if he is traded. Paint a Dodger uniform on him and ship them to LA with Crochet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 hour ago, peanut33tillman said: If I’m Getz and Dodgers are serious about Crochet I’m asking for something like…. Pages De Paula Rushing Doubt they do it but I don’t love how we line up with them anyways. Depending on how creative you want to get you could include Robert, Jr. , Fedde and / or some relievers and make a super trade that neither fan base would be happy with. Names to consider to improve roster for next year and bring more talent in for the future. Dodgers have pieces that you could buy low on who are probably better than any of our AAA guys like Bobby Miller or Outman. Sox don't have many bonafide CF candidates. Dustin May keeps having medical setbacks. Just throwing names out there . I know everyone will want their best and brightest minor leaguers but there's so little talent in AAA and the majors ( on the Sox ) that if you can get injured or slumping guys with a lot of talent and plenty of years left at a discount maybe you can have a pretty good starting pitching staff next year and speed and defense in CF. I know super trades don't really happen but if your threw Colas in there with Crochet,Robert Jr and Kopech Would it be terrible to get back Pages, DePaula, Rushing, Lux ,Miller, May, Outman and more ? Just playing armchair GM .I don't really expect anyone to think getting hurt or slumping guys is a great idea. The Dodgers have plenty of talent but a lot of it isn't exactly at its peak right now. They're kind of like the Sox of the recent past in that major injuries are crippling them. But they won't sit on their asses and do nothing . There's a lot of smoke around a Sox Dodgers trade now. Lots of ways this can go depending on how long the Sox FO wants to get them to a competitive level when all their best players on an all-time terrible team will be gone soon . They could be even worse next year. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, peanut33tillman said: If I’m Getz and Dodgers are serious about Crochet I’m asking for something like…. Pages De Paula Rushing Doubt they do it but I don’t love how we line up with them anyways. That’s an easy decline for me.. de Paula seems to be a DH. If rushing can’t catch his value is smashed. Pages seems like a classic overhyped dodger prospect that’ll bust Edited July 20 by Squirmin' for Yermin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 21 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Depending on how creative you want to get you could include Robert, Jr. , Fedde and / or some relievers and make a super trade that neither fan base would be happy with. Names to consider to improve roster for next year and bring more talent in for the future. Dodgers have pieces that you could buy low on who are probably better than any of our AAA guys like Bobby Miller or Outman. Sox don't have many bonafide CF candidates. Dustin May keeps having medical setbacks. Just throwing names out there . I know everyone will want their best and brightest minor leaguers but there's so little talent in AAA and the majors ( on the Sox ) that if you can get injured or slumping guys with a lot of talent and plenty of years left at a discount maybe you can have a pretty good starting pitching staff next year and speed and defense in CF. I know super trades don't really happen but if your threw Colas in there with Crochet,Robert Jr and Kopech Would it be terrible to get back Pages, DePaula, Rushing, Lux ,Miller, May, Outman and more ? Just playing armchair GM .I don't really expect anyone to think getting hurt or slumping guys is a great idea. The Dodgers have plenty of talent but a lot of it isn't exactly at its peak right now. They're kind of like the Sox of the recent past in that major injuries are crippling them. But they won't sit on their asses and do nothing . There's a lot of smoke around a Sox Dodgers trade now. Lots of ways this can go depending on how long the Sox FO wants to get them to a competitive level when all their best players on an all-time terrible team will be gone soon . They could be even worse next year. . May is out with a weird injury and only has a year of control left. Lux isn’t anything special and only has two years of control left. Outman is 27 years old and his bat has been exposed in the majors over a larger sample. These guys aren’t all that valuable and certainly don’t really help us in our rebuild. One team acquiring Crochet & Robert in the same trade would be near impossible for all but a handful of clubs and I don’t see the Dodgers being one of them. That being said, a package of Pages, De Paula, & Freeland would be enough for one of them plus a smaller piece (Kopech, DeJong, Pham, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Sounds like Skubal isnt going anywhere, Good for us De Paula, Rushing, Liranzo for Crochet and Fedde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 2 hours ago, peanut33tillman said: If I’m Getz and Dodgers are serious about Crochet I’m asking for something like…. Pages De Paula Rushing Doubt they do it but I don’t love how we line up with them anyways. That would be my ask as well. Throw in Pham to replace Pages on their roster. Hell, throw in Kopech too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 48 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Depending on how creative you want to get you could include Robert, Jr. , Fedde and / or some relievers and make a super trade that neither fan base would be happy with. Names to consider to improve roster for next year and bring more talent in for the future. Dodgers have pieces that you could buy low on who are probably better than any of our AAA guys like Bobby Miller or Outman. Sox don't have many bonafide CF candidates. Dustin May keeps having medical setbacks. Just throwing names out there . I know everyone will want their best and brightest minor leaguers but there's so little talent in AAA and the majors ( on the Sox ) that if you can get injured or slumping guys with a lot of talent and plenty of years left at a discount maybe you can have a pretty good starting pitching staff next year and speed and defense in CF. I know super trades don't really happen but if your threw Colas in there with Crochet,Robert Jr and Kopech Would it be terrible to get back Pages, DePaula, Rushing, Lux ,Miller, May, Outman and more ? Just playing armchair GM .I don't really expect anyone to think getting hurt or slumping guys is a great idea. The Dodgers have plenty of talent but a lot of it isn't exactly at its peak right now. They're kind of like the Sox of the recent past in that major injuries are crippling them. But they won't sit on their asses and do nothing . There's a lot of smoke around a Sox Dodgers trade now. Lots of ways this can go depending on how long the Sox FO wants to get them to a competitive level when all their best players on an all-time terrible team will be gone soon . They could be even worse next year. . I am against a megadeal with the Dodgers because most of their talent is either very far away or kinda too old. Outman is 27 years old. May turns 27 in September, same for Lux in November. By the time the Sox are good again, they'll all be 30, plus they've all burned a lot of cheap service time. And if they were all that good, the Dodgers wouldn't be trading them. Rushing and Pages are 23, which is okay, but Pages never walks and is more of what the Sox have already got. Rushing would be a first baseman for the Sox and his offensive profile does not support that. DePaula makes some sense. I could do Rushing, Miller, and DePaula for Crochet maybe. The rest of it is volume that would be highly disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 The article says that he is Considered to be at the top of the list. Not specific knowledge or some insider scoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 2 hours ago, greg775 said: Try explaining that to a fan base that wants to win now. Remember most teams are not like the White Sox in a constant state of tank/rebuild. Two innings at the beginning of the game are meaningless to contenders by the way. And you don't want to make him a reliever and possibly screw up his current routine/current arm. This is hilarious if true. Dodgers in late July worrying about next year and the year after. Only in baseball. Every move the Dodgers make should be about winning it all now. That's be insidious of them if Crochet becomes a late inning guy in the postseason. They prolly won't be able to help themselves from pitching him in late game situations in the playoffs/Series. The Dodgers are a lock for the playoffs this year. They aren't a "contender" you can pencil them in for the N.L. playoffs. They have the opportunity to get a person who could be an ace pitcher for several seasons including this year and have him ready to go when it counts the most...this season...come October. They can monitor his work load until then without risking anything as far as making the post season. They have that much flexibility. Dodger fans will understand that situation easily, It is strange that others don't seem to grasp that concept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce_Blixton Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 I'd offer Crochet+Pham for Pages+De Paula+Ferris+Eduardo Quintero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Meh. Interest is a good sign, but I don't love how the Dodgers prospects matchup. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Im not trading him to the Dodgers unless it’s a gross overpay. Don’t like their options. Something like Pages, Depaula, Rushing, Ryan and a flyer. Then maybe trade Rushing in another deal now or in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 hour ago, joejoesox said: Sounds like Skubal isnt going anywhere, Good for us De Paula, Rushing, Liranzo for Crochet and Fedde Barf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: The Dodgers are a lock for the playoffs this year. They aren't a "contender" you can pencil them in for the N.L. playoffs. They have the opportunity to get a person who could be an ace pitcher for several seasons including this year and have him ready to go when it counts the most...this season...come October. They can monitor his work load until then without risking anything as far as making the post season. They have that much flexibility. Dodger fans will understand that situation easily, It is strange that others don't seem to grasp that concept. All of this is a "could be" 1. Injury history 2. Only half year as a starter. This will make GMs hesitate. Rightfully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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