southsider2k5 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 This sounds like they are both hurt again, but I am not quite sure by that wording if this means they are being recalled, or just not rehabbing anymore. If they were being recalled, I don't know why you would "further evaluate" them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This sounds like they are both hurt again, but I am not quite sure by that wording if this means they are being recalled, or just not rehabbing anymore. If they were being recalled, I don't know why you would "further evaluate" them. Maybe they are cutting bait. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 8 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Maybe they are cutting bait. Would be fine with me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 16 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This sounds like they are both hurt again, but I am not quite sure by that wording if this means they are being recalled, or just not rehabbing anymore. If they were being recalled, I don't know why you would "further evaluate" them. Doesn’t this just mean whether they go on the active roster or return to the IL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Doesn’t this just mean whether they go on the active roster or return to the IL? Probably. Looking deeper, Clevingers rehab time is up, and Moncada is supposedly having some physical issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22 Author Share Posted July 22 11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Doesn’t this just mean whether they go on the active roster or return to the IL? That's what my guess would be. They aren't healthy enough to either stay on the roster or continue to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 FWIW- Moncada hasn’t played in a week and Pedro mentioned he may have had some sort of set back a few days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Return to sender, address unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 48 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This sounds like they are both hurt again, but I am not quite sure by that wording if this means they are being recalled, or just not rehabbing anymore. If they were being recalled, I don't know why you would "further evaluate" them. Or they have a trade that's a day away, and they're just stalling until they can make moves and announcements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Pedro Grifol on Moncada: "Moncada’s rehab was stopped with some anticipated soreness. We’ll reevaluate that. We don’t think it’s anything wrong. "Anticipated soreness that we want to err on the side of caution. There’s nothing where we feel he’s taken a step back." https://t.co/hEvkyBeAfa — LaMond Pope (@lamondpope) July 22, 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 22 Author Share Posted July 22 They shut him down.. for "anticipated soreness". Lmao. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Moncada and setback? Not sure I've EVER heard those 2 things associated with each other!! Just walk away from him, already. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: FWIW- Moncada hasn’t played in a week and Pedro mentioned he may have had some sort of set back a few days ago. What a shocker. My prediction was that Moncada wouldn’t get healthy until after the trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 35 minutes ago, Capn12 said: Moncada and setback? Not sure I've EVER heard those 2 things associated with each other!! Just walk away from him, already. He can't leave soon enough. Out of all the players with injury histories, he is the most annoying of them all (and also correlates to being the biggest disappointment but that's my opinion there). At least Eloy and Robert had significant injuries at one point (although Eloy was his own doing). Moncada has just been one ouchie after another. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) What does "been returned from" mean? When I read that i thought well they returned, so they're back and ready to go. Edited July 23 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 8 minutes ago, GreenSox said: What does "been returned from" mean? When I read that i thought well they returned, so they're back and ready to go. Probably means they can only be on a rehab assignment so long before being activated or just shut down again for a period of time. Doesn’t sound like either are ready to come back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, flavum said: Probably means they can only be on a rehab assignment so long before being activated or just shut down again for a period of time. Doesn’t sound like either are ready to come back 2 hours ago, GreenSox said: What does "been returned from" mean? When I read that i thought well they returned, so they're back and ready to go. I think it simply means they’re back with the major meanie club and not currently rehabbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 hours ago, Capn12 said: Moncada and setback? Not sure I've EVER heard those 2 things associated with each other!! Just walk away from him, already. We had a set forward at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 From the White Sox web site: RHP Mike Clevinger (right elbow inflammation, neck stiffness) Expected return: TBD Clevinger won’t make his next scheduled rehab start for Triple-A Charlotte, which was set for July 23, White Sox manager Pedro Grifol said. “Done for this start, but then we’ll reevaluate,” Grifol said. Clevinger threw four innings of one-run ball in his previous start for Charlotte on July 14. He made his last start for the White Sox on May 23. 3B Yoán Moncada (left adductor strain) Expected return: TBD Moncada has been experiencing “anticipated soreness” during his rehab stint, manager Pedro Grifol said. But Moncada does not seem comfortable with where he's at physically and his rehab as been put on pause for now. Grifol said it should not be viewed as a setback. “Even though you’re healed, it still feels similar to what it felt like when it first happened, but it’s not,” Grifol said. “It’s almost like he wants to be sure that he’s got no pain. Anticipating stuff, that’s kind of what that last thing is, just anticipating soreness but we want to err on the side of caution.” The switch-hitting third baseman has gone 8-for-15 over five games with the Arizona Complex League White Sox. Moncada was running to first on a grounder on April 9 when he doubled over in pain, and had to be helped off the field. He was placed on the IL the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 DVS of the Sun-Times story: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/07/22/rehab-assignment-for-white-sox-yoan-moncada-halted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) I literally forgot Moncada existed and that Clevinger was even on the team. Edited July 23 by ScootsMcGoots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 10 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: DVS of the Sun-Times story: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2024/07/22/rehab-assignment-for-white-sox-yoan-moncada-halted So much for rushing them back before the deadline. I did also like the subtle victim blaming of Moncada where the Sox are saying he's not really hurt, he just thinks he's hurt, so he shut it down that is later on in this article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So much for rushing them back before the deadline. I did also like the subtle victim blaming of Moncada where the Sox are saying he's not really hurt, he just thinks he's hurt, so he shut it down that is later on in this article. With Moncada that's not uncommon. Medical clearance and the player being ready do not always coincide. This happens on both sides. Sometimes the players wants to go prior to full medical clearance, other times they are cleared but don't feel comfortable. I'm sure the Sox wanted to get him back to possibly build value to trade him. Edited July 23 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 38 minutes ago, ptatc said: With Moncada that's not uncommon. Medical clearance and the player being ready do not always coincide. This happens on both sides. Sometimes the players wants to go prior to full medical clearance, other times they are cleared but don't feel comfortable. I'm sure the Sox wanted to get him back to possibly build value to trade him. The clash of themes being presented here is my favorite part of this. 1. They anticipated this. 2. He's healthy 3. He can't handle this. I have no idea why the White Sox like to embarass certain players so much, but here we are again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 29 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The clash of themes being presented here is my favorite part of this. 1. They anticipated this. 2. He's healthy 3. He can't handle this. I have no idea why the White Sox like to embarass certain players so much, but here we are again. You would prefer that they don't tell people that he is cleared? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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