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You can be tough on demands for guys you control past 2024. But guys like Pham, DeJong, etc....there is nothing good to be done by not even considering marginal offers. This team is no better with them still on the roster.

 

I'm all for him being stedfast concerning Robert/Crochet, but the rest is all fodder. If anyone shows interest, you take that flyer.

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  On 7/26/2024 at 9:06 PM, Capn12 said:

You can be tough on demands for guys you control past 2024. But guys like Pham, DeJong, etc....there is nothing good to be done by not even considering marginal offers. This team is no better with them still on the roster.

 

I'm all for him being stedfast concerning Robert/Crochet, but the rest is all fodder. If anyone shows interest, you take that flyer.

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The non-control guys will all be gone by the deadline.    But it isn't like they are big enough to even be in demand early.  We'll get our A ball reliever, and DSL wash outs and move on.

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  On 7/26/2024 at 9:17 PM, DirtySox said:

I think I've resigned myself to the fact that Fedde will be the only significant trade. Unfortunate. 

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Yep, that this point it feels like Fedde will be the highest level guy to go.  And for this one, I can't really blame Getz.  Just hope he doesn't panic.

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I just think Getz is so over his head, he just doesn’t know what to do.   i’m sure he’s shooting for the stars with his  trade request and when they say no, he just doesn’t know what to do.   Absolutely embarrassing.

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  On 7/26/2024 at 9:27 PM, Johno said:

I just think Getz is so over his head, he just doesn’t know what to do.   i’m sure he’s shooting for the stars with his  trade request and when they say no, he just doesn’t know what to do.   Absolutely embarrassing.

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This doesn't make sense. He doesn't need to trade Robert or Crochet right now. It sounds like he does know what to do, which is not trade them. Crochet has basically forced his hand to not be moved, anyway. 

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  On 7/26/2024 at 9:27 PM, Johno said:

I just think Getz is so over his head, he just doesn’t know what to do.   i’m sure he’s shooting for the stars with his  trade request and when they say no, he just doesn’t know what to do.   Absolutely embarrassing.

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The guy has made one trade similar to the ones he's trying to make right now and it looks pretty decent at the moment.  No idea how you can say "he just doesn't know what to do."  If he traded Crochet and Robert (who are under team control) for less than they are worth, that would be embarrassing.  

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  On 7/26/2024 at 9:31 PM, PaleAleSox said:

This doesn't make sense. He doesn't need to trade Robert or Crochet right now. It sounds like he does know what to do, which is not trade them. Crochet has basically forced his hand to not be moved, anyway. 

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He needs to trade them to start the position player talent acquisition phase that we need to push this rebuild along.  The problem is you only get one bite at the apple for each of these guys, so if he settles, it is too late.  He can wait until the winter with Crochet, but with Robert he has a little more time.  The problem is a time delay just pushes the Sox recovery event horizon back by an equal amount of time as it takes to move those players.

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  On 7/26/2024 at 9:41 PM, southsider2k5 said:

He needs to trade them to start the position player talent acquisition phase that we need to push this rebuild along.  The problem is you only get one bite at the apple for each of these guys, so if he settles, it is too late.  He can wait until the winter with Crochet, but with Robert he has a little more time.  The problem is a time delay just pushes the Sox recovery event horizon back by an equal amount of time as it takes to move those players.

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Yeah I worded it wrong. He ultimately does need to trade them, but he doesn't need to in the next 3 days if the offers aren't where they should be.

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  On 7/26/2024 at 10:21 PM, WestEddy said:

Nobody says "he wasn't involved". He was an assistant GM. Please explain how an assistant GM makes global decisions and his bosses up through the owner fall in line. 

And I'm not "giving him credit". The comment I replied to implied that Getz was in over his head due to lack of experience. I answered that by saying he most probably has experience working out the early-mid stages of trades under Hahn. 

 

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Oh there have been plenty of people that tried to make it seem like he had nothing to do with the debacle the last few years.  It’s just so ridiculous he got the job after the whole front office failed miserably.

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