caulfield12 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) It's quite simple. Hold Crochet (extension) and sign Roki Sasaki for whatever it takes. Hold Robert until trade value is maxxed out down the line. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-update-mlb-executives-planning-for-npb-ace-to-be-posted-this-offseason-per-report/ That gives you Sasaki Crochet Smith Thorpe and a long list of contenders for #5. Best rotation in the majors. Back end Cannon Iriarte G.Taylor Berroa Eder Bush... throw every young pitcher out there like the Sox did in the late 90s to unearth the next Buehrle over the following two seasons...if it's not already there in the form of Thorpe. Pray for a Montgomery return to health. Wolkow debut in 2026/27. Quero sticks as league average C. Have to dump Benintendi just for the sake of youngsters as a poor dead man walking role model. Get ONE league average starter out of Sosa/Gonzalez/Baldwin/Ramos. Need to fight like hell to get fWAR for bullpen defense and offense to at least around #18-22 in the majors. Obviously hit on all the trades this DDL. Finally move on from Shields and Vaughn. Easy peazy. Breezy. Etc. Edited July 26 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Better find a genie in a fucking bottle, otherwise there’s no chance. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: It's quite simple. Hold Crochet (extension) and sign Roki Sasaki for whatever it takes. Hold Robert until trade value is maxxed out down the line. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-update-mlb-executives-planning-for-npb-ace-to-be-posted-this-offseason-per-report/ That gives you Sasaki Crochet Smith Thorpe and a long list of contenders for #5. Best rotation in the majors. Back end Cannon Iriarte G.Taylor Berroa Eder Bush... throw every young pitcher out there like the Sox did in the late 90s to unearth the next Buehrle over the following two seasons...if it's not already there in the form of Thorpe. Pray for a Montgomery return to health. Wolkow debut in 2026/27. Quero sticks as league average C. Have to dump Benintendi just for the sake of youngsters as a poor dead man walking role model. Get ONE league average starter out of Sosa/Gonzalez/Baldwin/Ramos. Need to fight like hell to get fWAR for bullpen defense and offense to at least around #18-22 in the majors. Obviously hit on all the trades this DDL. Finally move on from Shields and Vaughn. Easy peazy. Breezy. Etc. Still need bats! Sign Soto to massive deal and make him the face of the franchise the next 14-15 years. Edit: while we are talking about things that won't happen. Edited July 26 by Bob Sacamano 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 1 minute ago, Milkman delivers said: Better find a genie in a fucking bottle, otherwise there’s no chance. At least that plan MIGHT work. To have a real strength and identity... like late 80s early 90s Braves. Sasaki to Sox obviously would take visionary or anti Sox thinking and risk tolerance beyond their usual conservative parameters on both Crochet and Sasaki. All failed starters thrown at the pen would take a lot of luck too. Can't waste there on veterans like recent plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 When you have to start a paragraph with "pray" and it involves the entire position player group, that should tell you how impossible it will be. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: At least that plan MIGHT work. To have a real strength and identity... like late 80s early 90s Braves. Sasaki to Sox obviously would take visionary or anti Sox thinking and risk tolerance beyond their usual conservative parameters on both Crochet and Sasaki. All failed starters thrown at the pen would take a lot of luck too. Can't waste there on veterans like recent plans. He's going to be under the amateur international signing rules so they can't write a big check for him. The quality of the current state of the team will matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: Still need bats! Sign Soto to massive deal and make him the face of the franchise the next 14-15 years. Edit: while we are talking about things that won't happen. So why run a franchise at all? All four teams in division positioned to bury team and it's fewer and fewer fans forever. So to would be a bust with the Sox just like he was in SD. He won't be worth his contract guaranteed. He doesn't field throw or run well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 If the Sox want to win by 2027... Pray for new ownership otherwise it isn't happening. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Dude what. I don't run this fucking team lol Why do I respond to these posts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: So why run a franchise at all? All four teams in division positioned to bury team and it's fewer and fewer fans forever. So to would be a bust with the Sox just like he was in SD. He won't be worth his contract guaranteed. He doesn't field throw or run well. WE don't run it. Whatever we can imagine or plan doesn't matter. Be realistic. Edited July 26 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 Just now, Bob Sacamano said: He's going to be under the amateur international signing rules so they can't write a big check for him. The quality of the current state of the team will matter. It would take qualities no Sox GM since peak KW possessed to brashly sell such a future vision. The baseball equivalent of Dawn Staley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Dude what. I don't run this fucking team lol Why do I respond to these posts Why SoxTalk at all if everything is hopeless or pointless? Existential question of sports fandom for perennially losing teams... such as the Bears and Bulls as well. Those rare magical seasons, of course. Pitch Sasaki on his being the Michael Jordan of Chicago baseball. Kris Bryant Prior and Wood all fell short in the end. Thomas too in a way. Obviously 7-8 amazing years then downhill. Edited July 26 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: It's quite simple. Hold Crochet (extension) and sign Roki Sasaki for whatever it takes. Hold Robert until trade value is maxxed out down the line. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-update-mlb-executives-planning-for-npb-ace-to-be-posted-this-offseason-per-report/ That gives you Sasaki Crochet Smith Thorpe and a long list of contenders for #5. Best rotation in the majors. Back end Cannon Iriarte G.Taylor Berroa Eder Bush... throw every young pitcher out there like the Sox did in the late 90s to unearth the next Buehrle over the following two seasons...if it's not already there in the form of Thorpe. Pray for a Montgomery return to health. Wolkow debut in 2026/27. Quero sticks as league average C. Have to dump Benintendi just for the sake of youngsters as a poor dead man walking role model. Get ONE league average starter out of Sosa/Gonzalez/Baldwin/Ramos. Need to fight like hell to get fWAR for bullpen defense and offense to at least around #18-22 in the majors. Obviously hit on all the trades this DDL. Finally move on from Shields and Vaughn. Easy peazy. Breezy. Etc. Easier said than done but I do like the potential of the starting staff but they have to keep Crochet and Fedde and sign them to extensions. The starting lineup is anyone’s guess, Quero, Lee, Montgomery, Ramos and Baldwin are going have to fill their potential. I have no idea what to do with Robert, everybody else needs to go, Vaughn has turned out to be a major disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 9 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: If the Sox want to win by 2027... Pray for new ownership otherwise it isn't happening. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 So, theoretically, if the Sox had Sasaki right now then they would be all good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 36 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: It's quite simple. Hold Crochet (extension) and sign Roki Sasaki for whatever it takes. Hold Robert until trade value is maxxed out down the line. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-update-mlb-executives-planning-for-npb-ace-to-be-posted-this-offseason-per-report/ That gives you Sasaki Crochet Smith Thorpe and a long list of contenders for #5. Best rotation in the majors. You just described the 2024 Mariners who are now in a tailspin. A studly starting five won't make up for dearth of talent/depth everywhere else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 38 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: It's quite simple. Hold Crochet (extension) and sign Roki Sasaki for whatever it takes. Hold Robert until trade value is maxxed out down the line. https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-update-mlb-executives-planning-for-npb-ace-to-be-posted-this-offseason-per-report/ That gives you Sasaki Crochet Smith Thorpe and a long list of contenders for #5. Best rotation in the majors. Back end Cannon Iriarte G.Taylor Berroa Eder Bush... throw every young pitcher out there like the Sox did in the late 90s to unearth the next Buehrle over the following two seasons...if it's not already there in the form of Thorpe. Pray for a Montgomery return to health. Wolkow debut in 2026/27. Quero sticks as league average C. Have to dump Benintendi just for the sake of youngsters as a poor dead man walking role model. Get ONE league average starter out of Sosa/Gonzalez/Baldwin/Ramos. Need to fight like hell to get fWAR for bullpen defense and offense to at least around #18-22 in the majors. Obviously hit on all the trades this DDL. Finally move on from Shields and Vaughn. Easy peazy. Breezy. Etc. Is "Smith" Noah Schultz? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 By 'if the White Sox want to win' do you mean win the World Series, finish above .500 or win a game? Because one of those will probaly happen, one might happen and one will not happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) If the Sox really want to win, buy 2,027 good players Edited July 26 by Snopek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 .....then we have to pray that Jerry has moved on 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 9 minutes ago, Snopek said: If the Sox really want to win, buy 2,027 good players Oooooh that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 The Sox will not be signing Sasaki, sadly. I bet the fix is in for the Dodgers. Also, future pitching is not their biggest concern. Even if they trade Crochet they have Schultz, Taylor, Smith, Thorpe, and a host of guys not named Nastrini or Burke ready to emerge. Their problem is no one can hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I know things look bad but do you really think this losing streak is going to last until 2027?? I'm sure they will win a game again, maybe as early as next week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: If the Sox want to win by 2027... Pray for new ownership otherwise it isn't happening. You nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 4 minutes ago, wegner said: I know things look bad but do you really think this losing streak is going to last until 2027?? I'm sure they will win a game again, maybe as early as next week. These days, I am not even that sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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