southsider2k5 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Well that's what a No.3 starter rental will get you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Bloss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 18 minutes ago, fathom said: Bloss? This doesn’t seem like anything for Sox fans to get up in arms about. Bloss is an a ball player over elevated into bigs due to injuries and a number 9 prospect in a system not loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 3 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: This doesn’t seem like anything for Sox fans to get up in arms about. Bloss is an a ball player over elevated into bigs due to injuries and a number 9 prospect in a system not loaded. He’s number 2 mid season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Oddly enough - they both have the same FIP this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 7 minutes ago, fathom said: He’s number 2 mid season They're get two additional lotto tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: They're get two additional lotto tickets. It’s honestly amazing how badly Getz messed this up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Bloss, Loperfido and someone named Will Wagner going back to Toronto. The Fedde deal continues to get worse. https://x.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/1818094797078614020?s=46&t=OnuOXQYd74Oi_dnfHwalAA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 1 minute ago, DirtySox said: If anyone wondered if the fanbase was overreacting, even national writers are mocking Getz. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Being perfectly honest, the Jays' return doesn't make me feel any worse about this afternoon's debacle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Loperfido isn’t a terrible comp in value for Vargas. Big AAA performance, old for that level, has done tolerably at the big league level for a rookie but not breakout numbers. Needs to cut down on the Ks to be anything but a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Loperfido isn’t a terrible comp in value for Vargas. Big AAA performance, old for that level, has done tolerably at the big league level for a rookie but not breakout numbers. Needs to cut down on the Ks to be anything but a backup. Yes it is. Vargas was a top 40 prospect in baseball because he gets on base at a .400 clip and he has like 70 minor league homers. Loperfido is older than him and has to stay off 1B to be anything basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 9 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yes it is. Vargas was a top 40 prospect in baseball because he gets on base at a .400 clip and he has like 70 minor league homers. Loperfido is older than him and has to stay off 1B to be anything basically Loperfido has more home runs in the last 2 years than Vargas has in the last three. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I don’t think I’ve ever seen a trade more criticized by the national media that wasn’t a salary dump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Y'all remember when a lot of us here wanted James Click as a GM and then JR didn't even interview him cause Chris Getz is such a special boi ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 8 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yes it is. Vargas was a top 40 prospect in baseball because he gets on base at a .400 clip and he has like 70 minor league homers. Loperfido is older than him and has to stay off 1B to be anything basically Come on man. We’re comparing Kukuchi to Fedde here. One is a rental player worth 0.2 WAR this year and the other is controlled through next year and 4.7 WAR. Fedde is much, much more valuable, not even close. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 The fact that TOR got 2 MLB ready players who are recently top 5 prospects in the org for Kukuchi and Sox gotten peanuts while giving up much more shows and is getting mocked by national writers speaks to truly awful of a trade that was. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 4 hours ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Come on man. We’re comparing Kukuchi to Fedde here. One is a rental player worth 0.2 WAR this year and the other is controlled through next year and 4.7 WAR. Fedde is much, much more valuable, not even close. I’m not denying that. I just don’t think the Jays return is great. Houston has worst system in the league. Both 19 year olds the Sox acquired would be like top 8 prospects in that system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 4 hours ago, thxfrthmmrs said: The fact that TOR got 2 MLB ready players who are recently top 5 prospects in the org for Kukuchi and Sox gotten peanuts while giving up much more shows and is getting mocked by national writers speaks to truly awful of a trade that was. It’s not peanuts though. They’re betting big on Miguel Vargas and the return is a player short for sure. Most people are just being hyperbolic online though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said: It’s not peanuts though. They’re betting big on Miguel Vargas and the return is a player short for sure. Most people are just being hyperbolic online though. Feel like it's a big piece from the Cardinals short. They still make out like bandits in that deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 23 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Feel like it's a big piece from the Cardinals short. They still make out like bandits in that deal. Would love to know how much $$$ the Sox saved in total from this. It’s the only factor that makes any sense at all. Vargas is a R/R DH. To ever amass 4.6 WAR, he’ll have to be Frank Thomas/Dick Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 minute ago, Timmy U said: Would love to know how much $$$ the Sox saved in total from this. It’s the only factor that makes any sense at all. Vargas is a R/R DH. To ever amass 4.6 WAR, he’ll have to be Frank Thomas/Dick Allen. Its pretty funny Getz said Pham's market as a RH OF was next to zero, a new industry standard, yet put an pretty high premium on this dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 Just now, Timmy U said: Would love to know how much $$$ the Sox saved in total from this. It’s the only factor that makes any sense at all. Vargas is a R/R DH. To ever amass 4.6 WAR, he’ll have to be Frank Thomas/Dick Allen. Fedde was $7.5 million for the entire season, 1/3 of that is like $2.5 million. Pham is $3 million, so a million there. Kopech appears to be $2 million, so 700k there. Subtract out the 800k total for three minimum wage salaries for 1/3 of a year and we are talking like $3.5 million in savings, depending on what the cash part of the deal looks like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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