Jake Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 I assume Rosado had an injury shortly after his signing and then flopped upon his return as a starter. Hard to complain about his debut as a reliever. Old for the level but has minimal experience so it's not like it's a guy who has needed 200 innings to solve low-A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Just now, PaleAleSox said: No. In what world are you getting a real prospect for Paul Dejong? Why would you even think that's possible? DeJong was worthless, we should be happy they got anything at all here. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 minute ago, PaleAleSox said: No. In what world are you getting a real prospect for Paul Dejong? Why would you even think that's possible? he's a decent starting player. you should be able to get more than just a reliever for that. Even like an 18 year old position player would be better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 17 minutes ago, poppysox said: I will need to adjust my pre-season projection now that we are trading all of our best players. lol it was a bit lofty I admit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 7 minutes ago, Jake said: 22 year old righty reliever dominating low-A. Okay, whatever He's 68th in K/9 in the Carolina League among pitchers who have faced at least 100 batters. He has a good ERA, but hardly dominating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 The return is fine. We knew Paul DeJong was not going to net anything of real value. This pitcher is at least doing well in A-ball. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, JoshPR said: Nah... Onix Concepcion.... Or hell Bill Pecota For once in my life, I need Caulfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 man soxtalk loves age appropriate or older relievers in A ball. They are amazed they are available for trade. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: I’m all for trashing the Sox/Getz…but a DeJong trade isn’t a valid reason for it. Any warm body for DeJong is sufficient value Basically. He's DFA worthy if not for a little pop in his bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 4 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: If you are going to be mad about what the return was for Dejong then I think you need to go take a walk around the block and clear your head. When Sox fans were told all year that we were benching kids so that we could build trade value for these guys, the return is everything. I know that we weren't expecting much, but FFS why did we waste a year of playing him then? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 11 minutes ago, bmags said: jesus christ Did we just trade for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: he's a decent starting player. you should be able to get more than just a reliever for that. Even like an 18 year old position player would be better. DeJong has .2 WAR.. What statwould you like to use to justify he's decent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Just now, chitownsportsfan said: he's a decent starting player. you should be able to get more than just a reliever for that. Even like an 18 year old position player would be better. But hes not a decent starting player. Hes a sub 1 WAR player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: After the media hyped up the Sox as a team with several trade assets to deal at the deadline, Getz is going to come away with one mediocre bat with no glove to plug into the lineup. Hilarious. I don't think the goal was to improve this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: When Sox fans were told all year that we were benching kids so that we could build trade value for these guys, the return is everything. I know that we weren't expecting much, but FFS why did we waste a year of playing him then? The problem was it was Paul Dejong to begin with. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said: DeJong has .2 WAR.. What statwould you like to use to justify he's decent? He has .9 fWAR and a wRC+ of 95. If you move him to 2B or 3B he immediately gets more valuable. I'm not saying he's a star, I'm not even saying he's a solid regular, but he's not a bum and you should be able to get more than just a guy that is like a player creator reliever that doesn't even have a real avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 1 minute ago, ptatc said: I don't think the goal was to improve this year. I don’t know, the Sox did target Jordan Walker of the Cardinals and then grabbed Vargas instead. Both players that you would plug into the lineup right after you acquire them. Edited July 30 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ptatc said: I don't think the goal was to improve this year. Really? Thy won 61 games last year, and can only pick as high as 10. Historically awful was the goal? We were told they cannot waste a year. Edited July 30 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, Jake said: I assume Rosado had an injury shortly after his signing and then flopped upon his return as a starter. Hard to complain about his debut as a reliever. Old for the level but has minimal experience so it's not like it's a guy who has needed 200 innings to solve low-A. Quote Rosado signed with the Royals out of the Dominican Republic in 2020. He missed the entire 2022 season due to injury, then struggled in his return last season. He appeared in 15 games for the Surprise Royals last season, pitching to a 10.38 ERA with 23 walks in 25 innings. The strikeout stuff offers some potential, however. Last season he struck out 12.1 batters per nine innings and he’s replicated that exact number again this season. What hasn’t been replicated this season has been the walk rate. Now with Low-A Columbia, Rosado has walked just four hitters in 23.0 IP this season. He owns a 2.74 ERA. His 2.21 FIP doesn’t show any sign of regression on the horizon, but he does work around a fair number of hits in each outing. Rosado throws a fastball, slider, and a changeup and has worked out of the bullpen in a late-inning role this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: When Sox fans were told all year that we were benching kids so that we could build trade value for these guys, the return is everything. I know that we weren't expecting much, but FFS why did we waste a year of playing him then? To try to build up trade value. Unfortunately, the players did not hold up their end of the bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I partially wonder if trading him means less paper work. The HR guy was in Getz's office and said I'm up to my ass in paper work with the other 15 guys we need to get rid of just trade someone so I can leave early on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Probably a guy we never hear about again but you weren't getting much for him anyway so whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I don’t know, the Sox did target Jordan Walker of the Cardinals and then grabbed Vargas instead. Yes, but then took 19 year olds for the rest of the trade. They may look at a couple for now players, but the focus is too improve for the up coming years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: He has .9 fWAR and a wRC+ of 95. If you move him to 2B or 3B he immediately gets more valuable. I'm not saying he's a star, I'm not even saying he's a solid regular, but he's not a bum and you should be able to get more than just a guy that is like a player creator reliever that doesn't even have a real avatar. You been watching recently? He stinks at 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: The problem was it was Paul Dejong to begin with. Then the organization was stupid to waste 100 games they could have literally played anyone else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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