WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Letter grades A through F please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 C- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Z- 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Contract the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 To steal a line from shameless: F. F? As in fail? F as in fucked! I'm all for using holding the big pieces if the right offer wasn't there, but I'm not confident in Getz being the right person to extract maximum surplus value out of the few sparse assets we have. I think you need to start putting way more value on bats come draft day. It's clear there is a premium on controllable bats and we are seriously deficient without having a believable path to at least being mediocre on the offensive side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 D. The Banks trade saved it from an F. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Probably C or C-. When all is said and done, the top four pitchers available were Skubal, Crochet, Flaherty, Fedde. Flaherty and Fedde got dealt for packages that were kind of underwhelming. The other two didn't get dealt. Baltimore stayed in their "budget" and got two SPs with eras in the 4's. Cubs obviously didn't get any good offers for Taillon. Seems like teams only paid for RPs. We were looking for offensive prospects. Who were the best offensive prospects dealt? Not many. Didn't seem like the market matched up with what we wanted to do. That being said, the Fedde deal is weird and doesn't make sense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Gonna need a new banner next year, there's a good chance that none of those 5 players will even be on the team let alone in baseball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 (edited) 8 minutes ago, SoxAce said: D. The Banks trade saved it from an F. Agreed. I had Getz’s offseason as a D, which was only saved from an F due to the Fedde signing. I was then going to give him an F for the trade deadline because he failed to extract good value out of Fedde (plus Kopech). However, the Banks trade bumped my trade deadline grade for Getz up to a D. Edited July 30 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 3 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: Probably C or C-. When all is said and done, the top four pitchers available were Skubal, Crochet, Flaherty, Fedde. Flaherty and Fedde got dealt for packages that were kind of underwhelming. The other two didn't get dealt. Baltimore stayed in their "budget" and got two SPs with eras in the 4's. Cubs obviously didn't get any good offers for Taillon. Seems like teams only paid for RPs. We were looking for offensive prospects. Who were the best offensive prospects dealt? Not many. Didn't seem like the market matched up with what we wanted to do. That being said, the Fedde deal is weird and doesn't make sense. I doubt the Cubs were ever going to trade Taillon. They acquired an All-Star 3B to build for the future so dealing Taillon wouldn’t have made sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I think the fedde deal was fine. Not selling crochet and Robert is a risk though albeit I understand he didn't want to sell low. Now shut down crochet immediately for the season to eliminate risk of injury or performance decline, hope for a robert bounce back in the second half and then sell them for a good price in the off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Babies first poopy! D - not feeling the future at all with this organization. It’s sad to be staring at the possibility of three or even four straight 100 loss seasons with a owner and front office that don’t care or don’t know what they are doing, or both. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: I think the fedde deal was fine. Not selling crochet and Robert is a risk though albeit I understand he didn't want to sell low. Now shut down crochet immediately for the season to eliminate risk of injury or performance decline, hope for a robert bounce back in the second half and then sell them for a good price in the off season. Crochet can start every Saturday and go three innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 13 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Crochet can start every Saturday and go three innings. C, Ok trade for fedde. Dejong meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Not great, bob 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysterySource5000 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 D- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ptatc said: C, Ok trade for fedde. Dejong meh. Fedde has been worth 4.7 bWAR thus far this season. Kopech and his 0.4 bWAR were attached to that trade as well, so the Sox gave up over 5 WAR in that deal. You actually were okay with the Fedde trade but are a bit disappointed that 0.2 bWAR DeJong didn’t net a better return? Edited July 30 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) A -Signing and flipping Fedde & Pham, moving on from Kopech - (2) - 19-year-old solid bats, (Perez was in future games), 24-year-old solid bat and in the lineup tonight C- signing and flipping DeJong - 22 right-handed reliever C - trading Banks - 19-year-old middle infielder, who knows B- moving on from Eloy - a bag of balls would have been enough, 26-year-old left reliever A - Not trading Crochet- can be extended or traded in the spring with 29 teams interested A - Not trading Robert - can be a long-term CF Edited July 30 by Falstaff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Idk how you could give this anything more than an F after Fedde/Kopech deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlSoxfan Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 D we did well on util. infielders that'll never be worth anything 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 F- Unlike most here I don't agree with moving Eloy. I mean that is basically Beni money. We would be better off hoping he has a healthy stretch THEN moving him. Like Roberts had last year but our dumbass FO kept him. We keep selling off these guys without getting anything in return. How does that help us? Salary? We aren't going to use his salary more effectively elsewhere. I don't like the other deal. Why we didn't end up with Carson is baffling when STL was prepared to just give him away to the Rays but that is why the Rays are the Rays and we are the whitesox. I don't agree with moving Kopech he is exactly the high upside arm we should be keeping once again we sold low. If he was key to the deal fine but the deal wasn't good to begin with. Dejong is trash and we got a trash return. The trade doesn't affect my grade either way other than we wasted a roster spot when we could have promised a higher ceiling a guy a spot on the team and snagged someone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Grades: Fedde = D => Like the players received, but did not get enough back DeJong = C => Low upside lottery ticket reflects fair value for the player Jimenez = A => Dumping ourselves of the player and his contract is a win Banks = B => Solid return for 32 year old w/ control but little track record Total = D => Ultimately a bad deadline for what was not accomplished (including no Brebbia trade) and for botching the Fedde trade 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 D…….Return for Fedde should of been substantial in a sellers market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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