WhiteSox2023 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Here's the brief write-up as well A dude that can just fucking hit. Exactly the type of player the Sox need. Not a freaking “athletic” dude that can’t get on base, which was the previous strategy of drafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Bullpen today was miserable. Crochet four innings is worthless in modern baseball. He's incredible sure, but the Twins led 1-0 when he left the game. Any team that traded for this version of Crochet would have been idiotic as that team's fans would not have understood his babying of his arm and very little value down the stretch into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 19 minutes ago, greg775 said: Bullpen today was miserable. Crochet four innings is worthless in modern baseball. He's incredible sure, but the Twins led 1-0 when he left the game. Any team that traded for this version of Crochet would have been idiotic as that team's fans would not have understood his babying of his arm and very little value down the stretch into the playoffs. LOL, “babying” of Crochet’s arm? Have you followed either Crochet’s career or the Sox at all for the last few years? The Sox have done the exact opposite of “babying” Crochet’s arm this year. Crochet is at 118 innings pitched on the season. In the previous 4 years, he only pitched a combined total of 73 innings in the majors. Edited August 4 by WhiteSox2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: LOL, “babying” of Crochet’s arm? Have you followed either Crochet’s career or the Sox at all for the last few years? The Sox have done the exact opposite of “babying” Crochet’s arm this year. I stand by what I said. Talk to pitchers like Jim Kaat, Fergie Jenkins, Mark Buehrle, Tom Seaver, Bob Gibson, LaMarr Hoyt about inning limits. They got the ball and threw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjp1684 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Looking at a line-up without any sort of offensive punch day-in and day-out is embarrassing. Our “top hitter” today from today clocks in batting .228. We had 2 guys batting under .200 and another 2 under .210. Compare that to the Twins where their worst guy’s batting average was .233. OBP…we have nobody with a .300 or higher. You can’t score runs if your entire team lacks the ability to hit and/or get on base at even a mediocre level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 3 minutes ago, greg775 said: I stand by what I said. Talk to pitchers like Jim Kaat, Fergie Jenkins, Mark Buehrle, Tom Seaver, Bob Gibson, LaMarr Hoyt about inning limits. They got the ball and threw it. Which of those guys threw more innings in one year than they had in the previous 5 combined? Oh right, this is greg and his pearls being clutched again. OH WHY OH WHY CAN'T IT BE 1975 AGAIN?!?!? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Which of those guys threw more innings in one year than they had in the previous 5 combined? Oh right, this is greg and his pearls being clutched again. OH WHY OH WHY CAN'T IT BE 1975 AGAIN?!?!? And two of the pitchers he mentioned barely threw 90 MPH. Edited August 4 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Once again the Sox were in the game late until Brebbia put it out of reach. He was an atrocious signing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Which of those guys threw more innings in one year than they had in the previous 5 combined? Oh right, this is greg and his pearls being clutched again. OH WHY OH WHY CAN'T IT BE 1975 AGAIN?!?!? Please comment on my assertion that a team would have been crazy to trade for Crochet considering his limitations on Aug. 1. Also comment on his being totally worthless to the Sox at this stage of the season going 4 innings max. This is silly to even discuss. 2-4 innings in the early portion of the game is not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: And two of the pitchers he mentioned barely threw 90 MPH. I can add a lot more: Koosman, Clemens, Ryan, others said: Give me the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, greg775 said: Please comment on my assertion that a team would have been crazy to trade for Crochet considering his limitations on Aug. 1. Also comment on his being totally worthless to the Sox at this stage of the season going 4 innings max. This is silly to even discuss. 2-4 innings in the early portion of the game is not important. Why are you worried about Crochet being worthless to the already worthless 27-86 White Sox? At this point, the Sox winning or losing games isn’t important because their season was already over months ago. Do you not think Crochet will be tradable in the offseason? Because the key for the Sox is keeping him healthy, not winning a meaningless game so greg can go to bed with a smile on his face. Edited August 4 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 56 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Why are you worried about Crochet being worthless to the already worthless 27-86 White Sox? At this point, the Sox winning or losing games isn’t important because their season was already over months ago. Do you not think Crochet will be tradable in the offseason? Because the key for the Sox is keeping him healthy, not winning a meaningless game so greg can go to bed with a smile on his face. Frankly I'd just shut everybody down on the team who has a future in the game. If all the games are meaningless, which they are, just sit everybody of note lest they get hurt. The two things that absolutely drive greg crazy are politics and the state of the Sox. As far as the Sox, from reading posts on Soxtalk I've been convinced our fave team is going to be even worse next year and very very bad again in 2026. Most of the fans on here don't want to start the clock on any of our good prospects til 2026 or 2027. So that means for a 4-year span, the White Sox are going to continue losing games at a record clip. This infuriates greg to no end. ... So yes when I read about Crochet's being shut down, I get upset. Meanwhile in a bad economy the White Sox are apparently raking in mega dollars and will continue to rake in mega dollars and if for some reason the team was sold it would be for billions of dollars. I don't understand all the nonsequitirs. Forgive me for being frustrated and upset and mystified all in one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Another day another cash betting against the Sox! I have no shame. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 7 hours ago, greg775 said: I stand by what I said. Talk to pitchers like Jim Kaat, Fergie Jenkins, Mark Buehrle, Tom Seaver, Bob Gibson, LaMarr Hoyt about inning limits. They got the ball and threw it. Putting aside the year-over-year jumps in innings, pretty good example of survival bias, I see. What abiut guys like Bird Fidrych? Jason Bere? Darren Dreifort? There are dozens of other names that people don't remember or recall because their arms fell off after a year or two of abuse, and their careers were cut short. I'll even throw Koufax on that list, as his arm basically fell off at age 30. Anyone can list up Hall of Fame pitchers with long careers and say "well they did it, so why can't Crochet?" They conveniently forget about the ones who didn't "make it." This may come as a surprise, but there are more who don't survive the way you're suggesting the team treat Crochet. This organization is doing a lot of things horrendously, but attempting to limit Crochet's workload is at least logical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 7 hours ago, greg775 said: I stand by what I said. Talk to pitchers like Jim Kaat, Fergie Jenkins, Mark Buehrle, Tom Seaver, Bob Gibson, LaMarr Hoyt about inning limits. They got the ball and threw it. This is nonsense and you know it is. Be for real talking about this stuff for once. Crochet is in his first full year after Tommy John why would you want to ruin his arm again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 (edited) I present to you greg, the most bi-polar poster of all time… https://www.soxtalk.com/forums/topic/119449-thorpe-to-il-with-flexor-strain/?do=findComment&comment=4632372 Edited August 4 by WhiteSox2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Brebbia is a real work of art. If the Sox are in a position where they still could win, just bring him into the game and those possibilities quickly vanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 9 hours ago, greg775 said: Please comment on my assertion that a team would have been crazy to trade for Crochet considering his limitations on Aug. 1. Also comment on his being totally worthless to the Sox at this stage of the season going 4 innings max. This is silly to even discuss. 2-4 innings in the early portion of the game is not important. I am glad you realized how historically ignorant your post was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Brooks Baldwin has 50 plate appearances, and played 14 games. He has never been on the winning side of a major league game. I wonder if that is a record to start a career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 14 hours ago, DoUEvenShift said: Don't stop now boys!! if Buxton scores a run I win $9k on a $19 bet Congratulations !! Show us your check Or however they do it now. I haven't made a bet since I won $4K on Superbowl XXXVII in 2003. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted August 4 Author Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Congratulations !! Show us your check Or however they do it now. I haven't made a bet since I won $4K on Superbowl XXXVII in 2003. I posted it on last page. Buxton did not score a run so it did not hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 17 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: A dude that can just fucking hit. Exactly the type of player the Sox need. Not a freaking “athletic” dude that can’t get on base, which was the previous strategy of drafting. Can we throw in Jake McCarthy as a guy that it'd be nice to have? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 16 minutes ago, Quin said: Can we throw in Jake McCarthy as a guy that it'd be nice to have? No, you get Dominic Fletcher and you’ll like it! Amazing how many poor decisions Getz has made outside of his one good signing (Fedde). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: No, you get Dominic Fletcher and you’ll like it! Amazing how many poor decisions Getz has made outside of his one good signing (Fedde). He’s 1 for 15….just like his players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 This is the worst bullpen in history. Wilson has been as big of a flop as Brebbia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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