LowerCaseRepublican Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 http://news.com.com/2100-1026_3-5106684.html?tag=nefd_top A forthcoming copyright bill backed by key U.S. senators would place file swappers in prison for up to three years if they have a copy of even one prerelease movie in their shared folders. Yeah, we don't need prison cells for violent offenders. We gotta lock away the people that don't want to pay artificially inflated prices for s***ty products and throw away the key! Peter Jaszi, a professor at American University who teaches copyright law, said he is "deeply troubled" by the wording of the draft legislation, because it does not say any actual copyright infringement must take place--only that the file be available in a shared folder, Web site or FTP (File Transfer Protocol) site. "It says we don't care if anybody got any of these copies," Jaszi said. "We're going to conclude that at least 10 people did. It relieves the copyright owner of having to prove that any violation of their rights actually happened." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 this is all headed by Orrin Hatch, who in his spare time is a writer and composer of s***ty s***ty music. obviously he's got to protect his interests. *middle finger* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Wow, that is serious bulls***. I hope this thing isn't passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Even if that law is passed, it will get thrown out by the courts quickly. All laws must begin with a presumption of innoncence until proven guilty and this one obviously does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Ok, I have little-to-no sympathy for the monopolitic Big Music. But that's SO besides the point. Really now, let's not pretend we are all entitled to something just because it's ill-protected, or better yet, are helping in liberation of ______ from ______ as though downloading is the act of civil disobedience.....Those kids (no longer includes me happy to report) are STEALING, majority of the time with a glee and a smirk, knowing there is no reprecussions. It's profoundly sad to see people my age act like they are 10yo kids who should never be held accountable for such little, cute mischief as piracy and/or illegal distribution with intent to profit.....Makes me laugh, and laugh and laugh hearing all the wide-eyed, self-righteous excuses, most of which I myself was making just a short whole ago. And, no, I don't think personal use offenders should do hard time for it. A huge monetary penalty and a permanent record will suffice. Those who make a living selling them and or make the enabling software, on the other hand, deserve to have their ass taxed.....by Bubba's bigger bipolar cousin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 brando, you were one of the people sued by the music industry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 brando, you were one of the people sued by the music industry? How do you figure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox4lifeinPA Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 nevermind, I read it wrong. you don't download anymore, but weren't sued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 nevermind, I read it wrong. you don't download anymore, but weren't sued. You better believe it. But nevermind that, what do you think about feminists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 You better believe it. But nevermind that, what do you think about feminists? they're terrible cooks, and their prowess with a washing machine leaves a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 they're terrible cooks, and their prowess with a washing machine leaves a lot to be desired. Yeah, but you gotta admit the hairy little dykes can haul a mean piano! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Yeah, but you gotta admit the hairy little dykes can haul a mean piano! Very true, but that doesn't mean they should be able to vote, what do women know about politics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 but that doesn't mean they should be able to vote It's funny, I too think castrating socialist child murderering lesbians should not be afforded that privilege. Besides, who said anything about "women"? Feminists, right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 It's funny, I too think castrating socialist child murderering lesbians should not be afforded that privilege. Besides, who said anything about "women"? Feminists, right... You want to make a feminist cry? Show her this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 You want to make a feminist cry? Show her this: Ewwwwuuuuu. That is gross! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Ewwwwuuuuu. That is gross! Sorry, Steff. Here's one more up your alley: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 You want to make a feminist cry? Show her this: Dear Wayne Tolleson, Please wire payment for keyboard and Floresheim shoes. -Sincerely, Brando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Dear Wayne Tolleson, Please wire payment for keyboard and Floresheim shoes. -Sincerely, Brando You obviously weren't kidding when you said you were poor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 You obviously weren't kidding when you said you were poor.... What do you call it when orange juice gets mixed up with vomit and comes out of your nose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 What do you call it when orange juice gets mixed up with vomit and comes out of your nose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Drinking orange juice while typing......Fem' Five attachment photo....mixture of hilary and nauseating disgust....keyboard and shoed ruined....you reimbursting the costs. Self-explanatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wong & Owens Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Drinking orange juice while typing......Fem' Five attachment photo....mixture of hilary and nauseating disgust....keyboard and shoed ruined....you reimbursting the costs. Self-explanatory. Come on now, the shoes can be cleaned, and I salvaged a keyboard after spilling hot chocolate on it before. The Enter key always stuck a little bit after that... Here's something to make you feel better: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 http://news.com.com/2100-1026_3-5106684.html?tag=nefd_top A forthcoming copyright bill backed by key U.S. senators would place file swappers in prison for up to three years if they have a copy of even one prerelease movie in their shared folders. Yeah, we don't need prison cells for violent offenders. We gotta lock away the people that don't want to pay artificially inflated prices for s***ty products and throw away the key! Peter Jaszi, a professor at American University who teaches copyright law, said he is "deeply troubled" by the wording of the draft legislation, because it does not say any actual copyright infringement must take place--only that the file be available in a shared folder, Web site or FTP (File Transfer Protocol) site. "It says we don't care if anybody got any of these copies," Jaszi said. "We're going to conclude that at least 10 people did. It relieves the copyright owner of having to prove that any violation of their rights actually happened." I'm forced to agree with you on this one. I think file sharing is wrong and a violation of copyright laws but this it totally draconian and off the wall. It won't happen though so there's no sense in worrying about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Yeah, we don't need prison cells for violent offenders. We gotta lock away the people that don't want to pay artificially inflated prices for s***ty products and throw away the key? How about people who don't want to pay "artificially inflated prices" PERIOD, preferring theft instead? Should they go to jail, ever? Maybe some day you'll get it through your insipid poseur-revolutionary head that (insufferable and unbecoming b****ing on part of Metallica and Co. aside) INTELLECTUAL and ARTISTIC property is, how should I put it.....NOT YOURS TO TAKE. I love what happens to morals and ethics when the law is not around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted November 14, 2003 Author Share Posted November 14, 2003 How about people who don't want to pay "artificial inflated prices" PERIOD, preferring theft instead? Should they go to jail, ever? Maybe some day you'll get it throught your insipid poseur-revolutionary head that (insufferable and unbecoming b****ing on part of Metallica and Co. aside) INTELLECTUAL and ARTISTIC property is, how should I put it.....NOT YOURS TO TAKE. I love what happens to morals and ethics when the law is not around. The RIAA has already been nailed for price fixing...found criminally guilty for that. If more money went to the actual ARTIST then I'd be willing to pay those prices, but the fact is that the artist sees almost no money from that high price. It's essentially a racket for the producers to make money hand over fist while screwing the artist. And PS, Brando. I download a song or two of a band I like and then go out and buy that CD. As for prison time, as long as we as an American society don't put guys like Ken Lay in prison for bilking billions of dollars out of Enron then a kid downloading music does not need to go to jail for some mp3s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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