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Pedro Grifol, Charlie Montoyo, Eddie Rodriguez, & Mike Tosar Fired (Grady Sizemore interim manager)


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Its weird that they didn't announce the interim manager in the same press release.  Typically it would be done at the same time, no? 

Does that mean its something outside the box and it will be a separate announcement?  Or just weird white sox way of doing things?

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1 minute ago, Nardiwashere said:

Its weird that they didn't announce the interim manager in the same press release.  Typically it would be done at the same time, no? 

Does that mean its something outside the box and it will be a separate announcement?  Or just weird white sox way of doing things?

It either means they didn't have it lined up, or they are just waiting to say it at the Getz presser this afternoon.  With as amateur as this organization is, I have no idea which one it is.

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1 minute ago, Nardiwashere said:

Its weird that they didn't announce the interim manager in the same press release.  Typically it would be done at the same time, no? 

Does that mean its something outside the box and it will be a separate announcement?  Or just weird white sox way of doing things?

inept white sox.....probably forgot to include in press release

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11 minutes ago, spiderman said:

I don't think anyone is going to defend Grifol as a legitimate manager, but this problem starts at the top. How can Reinsdorf promote his minor league talent development guy (Getz) for a team that hasn't really developed much outside of some pitching, mainly left handed starting pitchers? This roster is atrocious. Even the minor league talent, while improving on paper, appears somewhat top heavy and won't be enough to win with without spending money.

Unless the White Sox are willing to spend money AND develop a minor league system, we'll be firing the next manager in 2 years and complaining about how awful this person is.

If the White Sox were serious about putting together a competitive team, why trade Crochet for minor league talent? They can start next season (or early in) with Crochet, Schultz, Thorpe and Cannon. That is a reason for hope, but unfortunately, we know the clock is ticking on any pitcher who may have market value.

They probably will have Montgomery/Quero in the majors next season. Why not complement them, Robert/Vaughn (for now) with 2-3 significant talent upgrades?

I don't want to hear about this team developing talent and winning the "right away". If they can't commit to spending on this team and keeping their current talent, nothing will change.

you trade Crochet because he's a huge liability to get hurt again. you've already overworked him (by A LOT) by any measurable standard. 

this reminds me of when they traded Sale, it was only a matter of time before he got hurt again.  he's gonna be traded before spring training and you'll probably get a really good return for him assuming you don't blow his arm out 

also, Schultz isnt close to being MLB ready, he's still on a 4IP/game restriction lol

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3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

There's no game until tomorrow evening so I don't think it's that weird they haven't announced it yet.

It is a bit strange. A team typically has a plan to fire their manager and also makes the decision on who will be the interim manager before they announce it.  This should have been thought up and decided weeks in advance.

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6 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said:

Its weird that they didn't announce the interim manager in the same press release.  Typically it would be done at the same time, no? 

Does that mean its something outside the box and it will be a separate announcement?  Or just weird white sox way of doing things?

They're probably still trying to convince someone to do it.

Getz: Charlie, we'd like you to be interim for the rest of the season.

Montoyo: No thanks

Getz: Come on, please?

Montoyo: *stomps foot* No!

Getz: Alright.  Anyone see Grady?

*Sizemore hides behind a trash can*

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3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

There's no game until tomorrow evening so I don't think it's that weird they haven't announced it yet.

The headline I saw on my phone from CBS sports listed Montoya and Guillen as possibilities haha

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14 minutes ago, Rocky said:

The problem does start at the top.  JR is the biggest issue in the organization.  

If he truly wanted to win, he would fire Getz this off-season.  Getz hired Grifol.  This was his guy.  Hold him accountable for the hire and for his horrible off-season and trade deadline moves.  

But we know it's not going to happen.  

That was Hahn, not Getz.

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4 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

you trade Crochet because he's a huge liability to get hurt again. you've already overworked him (by A LOT) by any measurable standard. 

this reminds me of when they traded Sale, it was only a matter of time before he got hurt again.  he's gonna be traded before spring training and you'll probably get a really good return for him assuming you don't blow his arm out 

also, Schultz isnt close to being MLB ready, he's still on a 4IP/game restriction lol

With Schultz, he MIGHT be a late 2025 arrival, but realistically with his innings limits, he probably should be 2026 when he should finally be projected to around 150 innings.  But right now he is at 65 innings with about 3-4 weeks of the season left, pitching in AA ball.  He is going to finish around 80 innings, which puts him into the 120-130 range for next season.

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4 minutes ago, hogan873 said:

They're probably still trying to convince someone to do it.

Getz: Charlie, we'd like you to be interim for the rest of the season.

Montoyo: No thanks

Getz: Come on, please?

Montoyo: *stomps foot* No!

Getz: Alright.  Anyone see Grady?

*Sizemore hides behind a trash can*

There might be some truth to this.  A guy like Montoyo is probably negotiating his raise right now, and he might not be willing to do this cheaply.

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2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

There might be some truth to this.  A guy like Montoyo is probably negotiating his raise right now, and he might not be willing to do this cheaply.

Charlie wants his salary based on average attendance.....but only based on his initial weekend as manager.

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24 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

you trade Crochet because he's a huge liability to get hurt again. you've already overworked him (by A LOT) by any measurable standard. 

this reminds me of when they traded Sale, it was only a matter of time before he got hurt again.  he's gonna be traded before spring training and you'll probably get a really good return for him assuming you don't blow his arm out 

also, Schultz isnt close to being MLB ready, he's still on a 4IP/game restriction lol

This is why we can't have anything good. We're a major league team, supposedly a larger market team, who operates on the possibility of trading players because they may get hurt in the future and we're operating on a 3 - 5 year plan to get the team back into some form of competitiveness. Crazy that we are conditioned to think that rebuilding is needed to this level while also accepting that we won't pay for our talent and will need to do this again once it's time to spend money.

Maybe the White Sox do trade Crochet for some prospects that everyone gets excited about, but do the Cubs, Red Sox, Dodgers, other big teams routinely operate like this and get us conditioned to just accept this?

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39 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Its so Sox they waited until he won a game to fire him.

I think its more that they weren't going to fire him mid road trip.  But they should have just canned him on the previous off day. 

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37 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said:

Its weird that they didn't announce the interim manager in the same press release.  Typically it would be done at the same time, no? 

Does that mean it’s something outside the box and it will be a separate announcement?  Or just weird white sox way of doing things?

Maybe they’re scrambling to find one still.

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Just now, fathom said:

ESPN 1000 saying it’s cause they didn’t want new manager having to answer questions about the streak

They might have snapped it without tying a record if they fired him sooner. That Royce Lewis AB, pitching to him with 1B open and the infield playing in. Walk him, get a weaker hitter up, set up the DP. Not Pedro. 3 run homer. 7-2 game, and it's over.

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