southsider2k5 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 This was slid into the presser, but probably worth its own thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 This franchise is fucked for the next 5 years easily. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This was slid into the presser, but probably worth its own thread. In other words JR, "fiscal responsibility" mantra continues to be rule #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 8 Author Share Posted August 8 Jerry when the time comes for the financial component. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 I'm shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Wow can’t believe it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 I can't disagree with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Team is s%*#. Fans don't show up to watch shitty team. Org blames fans for team being s%*#. Rinse, repeat. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 28 minutes ago, joejoesox said: This franchise is fucked for the next 5 years easily. Easily losing 115 games next year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 (edited) On a side note, Maddog went on a 5 minute rant about Reinsdorf on his show at noon on Sirus. Among other things, he wailed on JR for hiring unqualified GMs Hahn and Getz. Edited August 8 by GreenSox 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Makes sense. Would cost about a trillion dollars to get this team to just mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 28 minutes ago, fathom said: Easily losing 115 games next year Well if it's 120 this year and 115 next year, they'll be competitive in...8 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 58 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Jerry when the time comes for the financial component. Unprecedented financial flexibility at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 33 minutes ago, fathom said: Easily losing 115 games next year just looked up Juan Soto's age, I thought he was like 29. he's 25. imagine at least having him on the roster for the next 13-14 years (that's what it's gonna take i'd imagine) i'll say this, by the time this team is good again, jerry probably won't be around to see it and it's all his own damn fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 6 minutes ago, almagest said: Makes sense. Would cost about a trillion dollars to get this team to just mediocre. Damned Inflation!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 I can't see bringing in anyone high dollar until 2026 or 2027. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 8 Author Share Posted August 8 9 minutes ago, GreenSox said: On a side note, Maddog went on a 5 minute rant about Reinsdorf on his show at noon on Sirus. Among other things, he wailed on JR for hiring unqualified GMs Hahn and Getz. Hahn actually did have a fair amount of experience coming up through the organization and serving as a long time assistant GM, who even turned down interviews for other GM jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 I kind of get the theory that 1. A large portion of free agent contracts go bad in a hurry and therefore 2. Spending years ahead of the anticipated time of contention has a high chance of leaving you with dead weight rather than a stacked roster. That said, you should really look at the free agent classes of the past 5 or so years. It's...really bad. No matter how much money you want to spend, you're not going to be able to buy yourself into contention in one offseason unless something changes in terms of the quality of player reaching free agency. The ideal is probably identifying the good long-term investments and "buying" them as soon as they are available even if it just moves you from 70 wins to 75. But if it was so easy to identify those players, every team would be building through free agency. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 8 Author Share Posted August 8 1 minute ago, Texsox said: I can't see bringing in anyone high dollar until 2026 or 2027. I mean that was the whole point of taking a pessimistic view of how long this would take. We KNEW that Jerry wasn't going to spend for while, and even when it does, it won't be in the A tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: I mean that was the whole point of taking a pessimistic view of how long this would take. We KNEW that Jerry wasn't going to spend for while, and even when it does, it won't be in the A tier. The A tier isn't coming here unless our offer was way better than everybody else. Plus until we see how our future "Star" players develop we're guessing which holes to fill. So another year of Beni level free agents. Then he better open the wallet for multiple championship opportunities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball_gal_aly Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Does a bear s%*# in the woods? Is the pope Catholic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 We wouldn't be able to sign any high-caliber FA for the foreseeable future anyways. What I WOULD like to see them do is to start spending money on an analytics department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 20 minutes ago, Texsox said: I can't see bringing in anyone high dollar until 2026 or 2027. putting an entire roster of kids through 162 games of failure, for multiple seasons, id imagine that wouldn't be good for their development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 No reason to spend next year and depending on who is available and how things are going, most likely the year after as well. Hopefully they’ve learned finally they need to spend 40m on one stud not 2 to 8m on 4 or 5 guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said: I can't disagree with it. Sure you can. Why are we OK with them being bad for the next 3-4 years? Fans spend money on the team, the owner doesn't share that same interest. While the end result may still be the same...there is a big difference between going .500 and playing .239 baseball. Jerry got the Sox into this mess. We should absolutely expect more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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