DoUEvenShift Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 16 minutes ago, Milkman delivers said: What’s this in reference to? Maybe the 2 drunk guys running on the field in the 9th? and one getting injured causing a 5 min delay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 (edited) 11 hours ago, caulfield12 said: McCarthy over Fletcher isn’t even the main point. It’s just the total lack of a vision for the org…which is finding projectable highly athletic up the middle talent and allocating it across the diamond instead of the backwards approach of the White Sox. Hate AJ Preller all you want, but he decided to try to build a killer bullpen like Hahn in 2021-22 and executed that plan flawlessly after not doing enough at the deadline last year. Traded 6/12 top prospects in doing so. In fact, Tanner Scott will even be a free agent at the end of this season. They basically had to cut nearly $150 million in payroll, get past the highly popular team owner’s death and are now getting more production from King Vazquez Higashioka combined than Soto last year and have even managed to survive and even thrive without Tatis Musgrove and Darvish. Consistently Top 3-4 in MLB attendance despite having their media rights deal decapitated and being in one of the 2-3 smallest media markets. Cease has been what some or many feared. Jackson Merrill has shifted seamlessly from SS to CF as one of the youngest players in all of baseball. Profar Estrada (struggling recently) Solano Peralta have all made considerable contributions and were better moves than any that Getz and Barfield made, with the singular exception of Fedde. Which has now basically been thrown away by the looks of it based on early returns from Vargas. And SD throughout has also maintained its position as an attractive FA destination. Not to mention they have survived trading Wood Abrams and Gore…with James Wood looking like he could be a potential star and CJ quite close already. Remember his draft year discussions/debates? Of course they have just won 16/18, but the resilience has been everything the Sox are not, and comeback winners consistently despite being the very worst in baseball at it last year. “Padres Rant” TM out of the way for now… Trading for Fletcher over McCarthy IS the main point. It is a specific example that shows that Getz’s scouting and player evaluation failed massively. Edited August 11 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, greg775 said: The economics of sports/baseball riddle me. The Sox can't be selling ANY merchandise anymore. I mean none. You'd have to be embarrased to wear Sox stuff outside GRate. ... The parking lots have to be empty. ... There can't be any lines for concessions cept when they play the Cubs, Bosox or Yanks. ... Yet the team is worth a gazillion dollars in a bad economy. Nobody can explain to me how TV can afford to fund these sports franchises with the golden deals. What advertiser would want to advertise with these low ratings? It's called more revenue sources both domestically and internationally for MLB than ever before in history. Shared mega-millions in TV revenue, a sweetheart lease agreement with the state, a low payroll during the first "rebuild" seasons and the fact that JR still gets money from the parking lots which he owns (they'll still draw about 1.5 million). I don't know if this is a 'bad economy' or not, most figures say it is not and JR certainly knows how to manipulate the system including taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 A few after game notes from James f**an at Sox Machine. Chris Flexen has now gone 17 straight starts without a win, a franchise record. And he wrote that on the play where Bellinger scored and Baldwin never even looked at home plate, "Cameras caught Cubs players laughing at replays of the gaffe on their tablets in the dugout." The Sox have officially become a laughingstock I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: A few after game notes from James f**an at Sox Machine. Chris Flexen has now gone 17 straight starts without a win, a franchise record. And he wrote that on the play where Bellinger scored and Baldwin never even looked at home plate, "Cameras caught Cubs players laughing at replays of the gaffe on their tablets in the dugout." The Sox have officially become a laughingstock I guess. Watch it again for yourself. Good thing Getz accomplished his offseason goal of improving the defense! Oops… https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2024/2024-08/10/6c175e61-16f4a2ac-0ff5ff9d-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp4 Edited August 11 by WhiteSox2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 5 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’d love to see someone argue how this team can be competitive in the next 5 years. This s%*# is gonna take 10 years, another GM, and 2 more managers. And , after the rebuild, we were told that the 2023 team was championship caliber. Now another rebuild! I don't have time for this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: It's called more revenue sources both domestically and internationally for MLB than ever before in history. Shared mega-millions in TV revenue, a sweetheart lease agreement with the state, a low payroll during the first "rebuild" seasons and the fact that JR still gets money from the parking lots which he owns (they'll still draw about 1.5 million). I don't know if this is a 'bad economy' or not, most figures say it is not and JR certainly knows how to manipulate the system including taxes. Do you at least agree that only in sports can a team be this historically awful and still be worth unlimited amounts of money? This would be like owning a restaurant and having the food be undercooked and the service awful and yet have waiting lists of two hours to get in the place. Inexplicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 6 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Watch it again for yourself. Good thing Getz accomplished his offseason goal of improving the defense! Oops… https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2024/2024-08/10/6c175e61-16f4a2ac-0ff5ff9d-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp4 I'm still pissed off at this play. Grady can't sweep this under his rug. Yes, Cub bench was laughing out loud after the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 9 hours ago, fathom said: They sucked when he was there also .500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 7 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Watch it again for yourself. Good thing Getz accomplished his offseason goal of improving the defense! Oops… https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2024/2024-08/10/6c175e61-16f4a2ac-0ff5ff9d-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp4 And that great player development program he headed at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 13 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Let’s give him some time. He just went from the Dodgers to the White Sox…that has to be a demoralizing adjustment. I know people don't like the "eye test" but after going to my first game in two years I'm not liking what I see from Vargas. His body language just says it all. His posture at the plate, on the bases, and on the field just screams "lazy" to me. He's not a ballplayer, he's just a talented player without a clue how to play the game. Kinda like Moncada and Robert two other Sox busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 12 hours ago, PaleAleSox said: He was not a DFA candidate wtf are you talking about? Trust me, he will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-Train to 35th Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 11 hours ago, South Side Fireworks Man said: Stay classy, Sox fans. it's just embarrassing, how many idiots are there on the Southside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 8 hours ago, greg775 said: Do you at least agree that only in sports can a team be this historically awful and still be worth unlimited amounts of money? This would be like owning a restaurant and having the food be undercooked and the service awful and yet have waiting lists of two hours to get in the place. Inexplicable. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 13 hours ago, Milkman delivers said: What’s this in reference to? Two fans jumping onto the outfield and another one throwing something at the Cubs outfielder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 3 hours ago, A-Train to 35th said: Trust me, he will be. Not for a couple of years for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 3 hours ago, A-Train to 35th said: I know people don't like the "eye test" but after going to my first game in two years I'm not liking what I see from Vargas. His body language just says it all. His posture at the plate, on the bases, and on the field just screams "lazy" to me. He's not a ballplayer, he's just a talented player without a clue how to play the game. Kinda like Moncada and Robert two other Sox busts. Interesting to point out only those 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 19 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Interesting to point out only those 3. Well, Eloy was traded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Just now, WhiteSox2023 said: Well, Eloy was traded. They have a lot more busts and "lazy" players than just 3 Cuban guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 2 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: They have a lot more busts and "lazy" players than just 3 Cuban guys. If you think that’s what he was going for, I disagree. And I’m sure he would’ve mentioned Eloy, who is Dominican, had he not been traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 12 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Watch it again for yourself. Good thing Getz accomplished his offseason goal of improving the defense! Oops… https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2024/2024-08/10/6c175e61-16f4a2ac-0ff5ff9d-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_16000K.mp4 Ol’ Willie knew his opposition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 7 hours ago, oldsox said: I'm still pissed off at this play. Grady can't sweep this under his rug. Yes, Cub bench was laughing out loud after the play. Embarrassing. Not a major league product Jerry is putting out there. In a Cubs Sox game there's no throw home, what a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Weird to not have a scheduled game on a Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Weird to not have a scheduled game on a Sunday. I think they said the last time the Sox didn't play on a Sunday was 1957 or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Gavin Sheets hasn’t hit a homer in 2 1/2 months, and only has 6 doubles during that time. I don’t understand why he is on the roster, but if he must play, does he have to hit in the middle of the order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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